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abe1979
United States
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The bad guy shot at the Silverado for no reason? Sounds kinda fishy to me. I maybe guess that pride or passion had something to do with it...again. Another sunny but smokey day in SGV.
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Lauren
San Diego, CA
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"Police did not know if the shooting at the Target was related to a shooting earlier in the day" How could you kill a guy without knowing whether or not he was involved in the previous shooting?
And it went from baton attack to getting shot? I understand the police have the authority to shoot when they feel they're in danger, but weren't there other steps taken? Pepper spray? Tazer? Hope more details come out about this story.:-/
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Shenanigans
El Monte, CA
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A baton is a potentially lethal weapon. You respond to it with lethal force. Ask any cop what he'd do if a suspect got his baton away from him and came at him with it. Most will say "I'd shoot him." If a madman is attacking at melee range with a baton, pepper spray will do nothing. A Taser might do the trick, but good luck getting off a good shot (a good shot means both darts make contact and stick) while the suspect swings away. Even if the Taser shot was clean, the close range wouldn't give the darts enough time to properly separate. Thus the circuit would be completed over a very small are, resulting in a shock that neither incapacitates nor deters. The officers made the right decision.
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Jack
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Lauren wrote: "Police did not know if the shooting at the Target was related to a shooting earlier in the day" How could you kill a guy without knowing whether or not he was involved in the previous shooting? And it went from baton attack to getting shot? I understand the police have the authority to shoot when they feel they're in danger, but weren't there other steps taken? Pepper spray? Tazer? Hope more details come out about this story.:-/ Maybe in your perfect world your pepper spray would be just fine, other than the fact it does not effect everyone. In reference to your ignorant comment about the shootings not being related, you must understand that these types of investigations take time. And...you just cant asked the guy if he was related to the other shooting. We have a spot back in reality, if you want to come back to the lovely SGV!
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Your Dad
Orange, CA
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hispanicpanic wrote: how typical of this area, a hispanic with a gun...(sigh) what a bunch of homosexuals! I'll bet you're a big snatch, huh, go ahead admit it..........
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imurhucklberry
Los Angeles, CA
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hispanicpanic wrote: how typical of this area, a hispanic with a gun...(sigh) what a bunch of homosexuals! AND YOUR POINT IS???
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imurhucklberry
Los Angeles, CA
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Yeah, I bet he is a BIG SNATCH...LOL
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Opie
Pomona, CA
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I remember an Officer a few years ago who had his baton taken from him and was then beaten to death with it. So, yes the Officers made the right decision.
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socal
Montclair, CA
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pickup a police officers baton and tap your self on the head with it and tell me it couldn't kill you.
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yeah
Pasadena, CA
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Its obvious the one poster has never held a baton. Even those little collapsible batons- they look skinny and frail Swing that thing at someones head and you can do real damage---
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Wondering
Los Angeles, CA
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Police officers have a right to defend themselves under any attack and most of the times they are forced to make judments based on the situations they are placed on a daily basis. We need to keep in mind that seconds can make a difference in a police officers life and opting to shoot might be that difference. Plus we cannot blame the officer for the choices the other person made. Well I will go ahead and ask my question: Was the inccidence related to some of the streets being bloked yesterday?
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OSA KINGS
Albany, GA
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OSA REMAS TENSE
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FATTMATT
Los Angeles, CA
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Lauren wrote: "Police did not know if the shooting at the Target was related to a shooting earlier in the day" How could you kill a guy without knowing whether or not he was involved in the previous shooting? And it went from baton attack to getting shot? I understand the police have the authority to shoot when they feel they're in danger, but weren't there other steps taken? Pepper spray? Tazer? Hope more details come out about this story.:-/ NEXT TIME YOUR GETTING BEAT BY SOME THUGS DONT CALL 911 IDIOT. USE YOUR PEPPER SPRAY OR BATON.......
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West Covina Resident
West Covina, CA
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Lauren wrote: "Police did not know if the shooting at the Target was related to a shooting earlier in the day" How could you kill a guy without knowing whether or not he was involved in the previous shooting? And it went from baton attack to getting shot? I understand the police have the authority to shoot when they feel they're in danger, but weren't there other steps taken? Pepper spray? Tazer? Hope more details come out about this story.:-/ The suspect should have complied with the officers' orders instead of grabbing the baton. The suspect broke one the officers' wrist. No doubt!- reasonable force was used.
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Barney Fife
Orange, CA
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Don't be so naive, that's a standard cop reply in an officer involved murder, yeah murder. That one or "he was reaching in his waste band". You're trying to tell me these two cops can't subdue a looney little 24 year old homeboy. Pathetic.
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Shenanigans
El Monte, CA
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Ever try and subdue someone that was swinging a bat, or in this case, a baton? They were already in close quarters with the suspect, which means they couldn't effectively employ Tasers. This wasn't a murder, it was a justifiable homicide, as almost all officer-involved shootings are. Oh, and they did subdue him. Bullets subdue suspects very quickly.
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other side
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Barney Fife wrote: Don't be so naive, that's a standard cop reply in an officer involved murder, yeah murder. That one or "he was reaching in his waste band". You're trying to tell me these two cops can't subdue a looney little 24 year old homeboy. Pathetic. Explain the cop's injuries, moron. An officer involved shooting is never murder. just suicide. It's suicide because the suspect chose his course of action The officers had to react. He chose to die as soon as he started swining that baton.
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Lauren
San Diego, CA
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Jack wrote: <quoted text> Maybe in your perfect world your pepper spray would be just fine, other than the fact it does not effect everyone. In reference to your ignorant comment about the shootings not being related, you must understand that these types of investigations take time. And...you just cant asked the guy if he was related to the other shooting. We have a spot back in reality, if you want to come back to the lovely SGV! So quick to spew out your hate on people you don't even know. The point of my comment was aimed more at the lack of information in the story, not in procedure.
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Lauren
San Diego, CA
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West Covina Resident wrote: <quoted text> The suspect should have complied with the officers' orders instead of grabbing the baton. The suspect broke one the officers' wrist. No doubt!- reasonable force was used. I love how the updated story only says that the suspect "tried" to strike officers with the baton and the officer's wrist isn't really broken. Don't always believe what you read in the tribune, people. This story clearly has its holes and it still does. Healthy skepticism is vital.
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other side
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Lauren wrote: <quoted text> I love how the updated story only says that the suspect "tried" to strike officers with the baton and the officer's wrist isn't really broken. Don't always believe what you read in the tribune, people. This story clearly has its holes and it still does. Healthy skepticism is vital. Take your own advice. The officer WAS injured (and no I didn't get that information just from the Tribune).
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