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Stuipd Citizens wrote: Some of the unreleased pages in McCain's Navy file may not reflect well upon his qualifications for the presidency. From day one in the Navy, McCain screwed-up again and again, only to be forgiven because his father and grandfather were four-star admirals. McCain's sense of entitlement to privileged treatment bears an eerie resemblance to George W. Bush's.
Despite graduating in the bottom 1 percent of his Annapolis class, McCain was offered the most sought-after Navy assignment -- to become an aircraft carrier pilot. According to military historian John Karaagac, "'the Airdales,' the air wing of the Navy, acted and still do, as if unrivaled atop the naval pyramid.
The genius of McCain's mythmaking is his perceived humility amid perpetual defiance. Having been a rebel without cause, and often a rebel without consequences, McCain apparently was not surprised when his Vietnamese captors went relatively easy on him compared to his fellow POWs. The Vietnamese military secretly and frequently filmed the American POWs to learn their propensities. Col. Pham Van Hoa of the Vietnamese People's Army Film Department was in charge of the filming. Asked recently for his dominant impression of McCain, the now-retired Van Hoa said that McCain "seemed superior to other prisoners." How so? "Superior in attitude towards them."
But when Mark Salter, McCain's closest aide and co-author, was asked by the Arizona New Times about the first McCain memoir, Faith of My Fathers, that he was then working on, Salter said "the book will showcase a humble McCain. When I worked on this book with him, he just kept saying,'Other guys had it a lot worse. I think they took it easier on me because of who my dad was.... When they tied me in ropes, they'd roll my sleeve up to give it a little padding between the rope and my bicep, you know, little things I noticed. The only really hard time I had was when I didn't go home, and then it only lasted a week, and sometimes I felt braver, I felt I could get away with more.'"
Is McCain now getting away with more by hiding his official history and by having his national security adviser inflate McCain's resume with a bogus promotion to admiral humbly declined? If so, McCain may be attempting to hide why the Navy was in fact slow to promote him upwards despite his suffering as a POW and his distinguished naval heritage. "Some of the unreleased pages in McCain's Navy file may not reflect well upon his qualifications for the presidency." Does anyone realize how stupid that sentence is -how inane- how totally lacking in rational thought? SOME UNRELEASED PAGES --MAY not reflect well. IF THEY ARE UNRELEASED how the hell would anyone know how they reflect? And that is,IF there are any vital unreleased documents out there in the beyond. Does anyone knocking this guy's war record realize he ran for the Senate with a Democrat sitting in the Oval Office who could have RELEASED any documents he wanted to whomever was running against McCain?? Are you all so blind with hatred -- so poisonous in nature,-- so lacking in any character at all that you would help Ted Sampley distort yet another man's war record? All of you doing this -- you are the same people who accuse Bush of being a liar and a coward among other things - take a good look in the mirror -- see any resemblance ? Can yo stand the reflection.
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FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN WHO TED SAMPLEY IS AND WHY HE ATTACKED KERRY AND MCCAIN : HERE IS A WEBSITE: http://bluenc.com/node/3796 AND HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE LIES HE HAS TOLD: Sampley specializes in media manipulation and public relations.In 1988 Sampley — who at the time had no personal stake in MIA issue — tried to turn one family's somber moment into a scandal that would help perpetuate the POW movement. Instead, Sampley's effort came across as a vulgar grab for center stage. The episode revolved around the case of a Navy pilot, Commander Edwin B. Tucker. Tucker had been shot down over North Vietnam eleven years earlier. He was thought to have been captured and was listed as a POW. He was later listed as killed in action. His remains were returned to the United States and were buried with full military honors in 1988 at Arlington National Cemetery. Shortly after the funeral, Sampley called a press conference in Norfolk, Virginia, where Tucker's former aircraft carrier is based. Sampley announced that Tucker's body had been on display for fifteen years inside a glass case in Vietnam. Sampley said Tucker's family had been forced to pledge secrecy on the matter before being allowed to receive the remains. In a scenario similar to the one he had created about Wetzel, Sampley said that Tucker had parachuted alive into a crowd of angry villagers, who had hacked at him with a hoe. "They carried him to a North Vietnamese hospital where he was put on an operating table and died," Sampley told reporters. The remains, along with Tucker's flight helmet, were then placed inside the glass case, Sampley said. "The Vietnamese public gawked at this display for fifteen years." Sampley said that both the U.S. and Vietnamese governments had told Tucker's son he could have the remains only if he swore to keep the facts of the case secret. The dead pilot's son, Edwin B. Tucker, Jr., scoffed at Sampley's charge saying "There was no coercion,no agreement, secret or otherwise. "
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MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DID NOT PUT JOHN MCCAIN IN THE U. S. NAVY TO FLY JETS IN VIETNAM IF MCCAIN HAD POOR GRADES. HOPEFULLY BUSH DID NOT CRASH 5 U. S. NAVY AIRCRAFTS. buyer-beware wrote: <quoted text>
"Some of the unreleased pages in McCain's Navy file may not reflect well upon his qualifications for the presidency." Does anyone realize how stupid that sentence is -how inane- how totally lacking in rational thought?
SOME UNRELEASED PAGES --MAY not reflect well. IF THEY ARE UNRELEASED how the hell would anyone know how they reflect? And that is,IF there are any vital unreleased documents out there in the beyond.
Does anyone knocking this guy's war record realize he ran for the Senate with a Democrat sitting in the Oval Office who could have RELEASED any documents he wanted to whomever was running against McCain??
Are you all so blind with hatred -- so poisonous in nature,-- so lacking in any character at all that you would help Ted Sampley distort yet another man's war record?
All of you doing this -- you are the same people who accuse Bush of being a liar and a coward among other things - take a good look in the mirror -- see any resemblance ? Can yo stand the reflection. TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR----SEE THE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DYING IN THIS WAR! CAN YOU STAND THE REFLECTION? A PROPER SELECTION COULD HAVE SAVED A LIFE. IF JOHN MCCAIN CRASHED U.S. NAVY AIRCRAFT WHILE IN TRAINING, AND IF MCCAIN HAD POOR GRADES, MCCAIN SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN FLYING IN VIETNAM. IS MCCAIN CURRENTLY ON NAVY DISABILITY AND NOW YOU WANT HIM TO BE PRESIDENT? IS THIS POOR JUDGMENT ON DAY ONE? 2007 Mar 2, 2007 - During naval flight training, McCain had several close calls, including a crash in Corpus Christi Bay and a collision with power lines in Spain.... McCain escaped from his jet, but was struck in the legs and chest by shrapnel when a bomb exploded underneath his airplane.... From McCain trivia - AZ Central.com YES, AMERICA WANT TO KNOW AMERICA ECONOMY DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR. MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR. DID MCCAIN HAVE POOR JUDGMENT ON DAY ONE MCCAIN/BUSH
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buyerbeware wrote: FOR ANYONE INTERESTED IN WHO TED SAMPLEY IS AND WHY HE ATTACKED KERRY AND MCCAIN : HERE IS A WEBSITE: http://bluenc.com/node/3796 AND HERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE LIES HE HAS TOLD: Sampley specializes in media manipulation and public relations.In 1988 Sampley — who at the time had no personal stake in MIA issue — tried to turn one family's somber moment into a scandal that would help perpetuate the POW movement. Instead, Sampley's effort came across as a vulgar grab for center stage. The episode revolved around the case of a Navy pilot, Commander Edwin B. Tucker. Tucker had been shot down over North Vietnam eleven years earlier. He was thought to have been captured and was listed as a POW. He was later listed as killed in action. His remains were returned to the United States and were buried with full military honors in 1988 at Arlington National Cemetery. Shortly after the funeral, Sampley called a press conference in Norfolk, Virginia, where Tucker's former aircraft carrier is based. Sampley announced that Tucker's body had been on display for fifteen years inside a glass case in Vietnam. Sampley said Tucker's family had been forced to pledge secrecy on the matter before being allowed to receive the remains. In a scenario similar to the one he had created about Wetzel, Sampley said that Tucker had parachuted alive into a crowd of angry villagers, who had hacked at him with a hoe. "They carried him to a North Vietnamese hospital where he was put on an operating table and died," Sampley told reporters. The remains, along with Tucker's flight helmet, were then placed inside the glass case, Sampley said. "The Vietnamese public gawked at this display for fifteen years." Sampley said that both the U.S. and Vietnamese governments had told Tucker's son he could have the remains only if he swore to keep the facts of the case secret. The dead pilot's son, Edwin B. Tucker, Jr., scoffed at Sampley's charge saying "There was no coercion,no agreement, secret or otherwise. " I for one have never heard of Ted Sampley and am sure most everyone else here hasn't either. John McCain collaborated with the enemy while a POW. He provided his captors with a wealth of information about his mission, tactics, shipmates and other stuff he shouldn't have after which he made more than 30 anti-American broadcasts heard by GIs in foxholes throughout 'Nam. I know. I was in 'Nam. I heard the broadcasts your crap about Ted Sampley notwithstanding. ricland
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http://www.youtube.com/watch... MCCAIN/BUSH QUESTION wrote: POOR JUDGMENT ON DAY ONE: <quoted text> http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch... POOR JUDGMENT ON AND DAY ONE, IS THAT MY FRIENDS, THE KIND OF CHANGE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA NEED? WHO IS JOHN MCCAIN?
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Darrell wrote: McCain is a coward and a racist. He called the Vietmese people "gooks". Obama has more better experience. He grew up as a strong Black man in a racist white societey. Obama knows what needs to be accomplished to make amends for the sins of the US of KKK. Gooks, gooks, gook, gook, gook, gook, gook, gook.
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johanson wrote: <quoted text>
You are a despicable piece of shi*. You may not like Senator McCain, but for you to call his time as a POW a discredit to the United States goes beyond any political attack.
If you read the Code of Conduct to which you refer, you would know that it says to resist to the best of your abilities. When facing torture or being tortured, it could not be expected that no information would be given.
I would love to see you go through the kind of torture Senator McCain went throug and not talk. Hell, you would probably sell out your grandmother if it meant getting a six pack of beer.
Go fu** yourself you little pussy. Come on now, we all know these Obama supporters are slime and have no integrity.
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MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA ECONOMY DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR. MAC PATRIOTISM wrote: WHAT ABOUT MCCAIN?
WHAT ABOUT THE KEATING 5?
WHAT ABOUT THE TAXPAYERS?
Charles Keating was convicted of racketeering and fraud in both state and federal court after his Lincoln Savings & Loan collapsed, costing the taxpayers $3.4 billion
MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA ECONOMY DIE BECAUSE OF THE IRAQ WAR.
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mccain...bottom of his class at USNA and got shot down and captured and held for 5 yrs while others faught and died.. does that make him presidential material? No. He's no hero.. he's a screw up.
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POOR JUDGMENT DAY wrote: MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DID NOT PUT JOHN MCCAIN IN THE U. S. NAVY TO FLY JETS IN VIETNAM IF MCCAIN HAD POOR GRADES. HOPEFULLY BUSH DID NOT CRASH 5 U. S. NAVY AIRCRAFTS. <quoted text> TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR----SEE THE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DYING IN THIS WAR! CAN YOU STAND THE REFLECTION? A PROPER SELECTION COULD HAVE SAVED A LIFE. IF JOHN MCCAIN CRASHED U.S. NAVY AIRCRAFT WHILE IN TRAINING, AND IF MCCAIN HAD POOR GRADES, MCCAIN SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN FLYING IN VIETNAM. IS MCCAIN CURRENTLY ON NAVY DISABILITY AND NOW YOU WANT HIM TO BE PRESIDENT? IS THIS POOR JUDGMENT ON DAY ONE? 2007 Mar 2, 2007 - During naval flight training, McCain had several close calls, including a crash in Corpus Christi Bay and a collision with power lines in Spain.... McCain escaped from his jet, but was struck in the legs and chest by shrapnel when a bomb exploded underneath his airplane.... From McCain trivia - AZ Central.com YES, AMERICA WANT TO KNOW AMERICA ECONOMY DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR. MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR. DID MCCAIN HAVE POOR JUDGMENT ON DAY ONE MCCAIN/BUSH Hey, what time are we leaving for the protest at the marine recruitment center? I just love it when we get together and spit on our vets and active duty. Oh crap, I have to get my pink boa from the dry cleaners on the way there.
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Stuipd Citizens wrote: that's the low down dirty truth what a little weasel cheater! The above douche-bag would think low down dirty truth what a little weasel cheater if she for one second served this country, flew a jet in combat and spent 5.5 years a POW in Vietnam. I suspect the above mesmerized snot-nosed Obama supporting mental case would dial 911 if she broke a nail.
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Ric Ricland wrote: <quoted text>
I for one have never heard of Ted Sampley and am sure most everyone else here hasn't either.
John McCain collaborated with the enemy while a POW. He provided his captors with a wealth of information about his mission, tactics, shipmates and other stuff he shouldn't have after which he made more than 30 anti-American broadcasts heard by GIs in foxholes throughout 'Nam.
I know.
I was in 'Nam.
I heard the broadcasts your crap about Ted Sampley notwithstanding.
ricland Is this a prime example of an Obama supporter? YOU HEARD WHAT BROADCASTS?????????? Tell me what "foxhole" in 'Nam were you sitting in when you heard those 30 broadcasts. You are such a pathetic piece of deadwood. You are a disgrace to whatever unit you supposedly served in and to every guy that ever shed a drop of blood or suffered in a POW camp or served in combat for the sake of his country. May your sleep be tortured by the souls of those who gave all for this nation. Don't bother responding -you are not worth posting to.
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POOR JUDGMENT DAY wrote: MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DID NOT PUT JOHN MCCAIN IN THE U. S. NAVY TO FLY JETS IN VIETNAM IF MCCAIN HAD POOR GRADES. HOPEFULLY BUSH DID NOT CRASH 5 U. S. NAVY AIRCRAFTS. <quoted text> TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR----SEE THE MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DYING IN THIS WAR! CAN YOU STAND THE REFLECTION? A PROPER SELECTION COULD HAVE SAVED A LIFE. IF JOHN MCCAIN CRASHED U.S. NAVY AIRCRAFT WHILE IN TRAINING, AND IF MCCAIN HAD POOR GRADES, MCCAIN SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN FLYING IN VIETNAM. IS MCCAIN CURRENTLY ON NAVY DISABILITY AND NOW YOU WANT HIM TO BE PRESIDENT? IS THIS POOR JUDGMENT ON DAY ONE? 2007 Mar 2, 2007 - During naval flight training, McCain had several close calls, including a crash in Corpus Christi Bay and a collision with power lines in Spain.... McCain escaped from his jet, but was struck in the legs and chest by shrapnel when a bomb exploded underneath his airplane.... From McCain trivia - AZ Central.com YES, AMERICA WANT TO KNOW AMERICA ECONOMY DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR. MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR. DID MCCAIN HAVE POOR JUDGMENT ON DAY ONE MCCAIN/BUSH You're another pathetic piece of deadwood. Another typical Obama supporter . Your guy has nothing to offer so you malign a man who served his nation. And what the hell do you really know anyway except your own despicable hatred. Not worth posting to again. Poor judgment? No judgment. Makes one long for the draft.
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Coolmind wrote: mccain...bottom of his class at USNA and got shot down and captured and held for 5 yrs while others faught and died.. does that make him presidential material? No. He's no hero.. he's a screw up. Right. So your community activist who sat around up in Chicago enjoying the good life is a better choice? Get a life. Get real.
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buyerbeware wrote: <quoted text>
Is this a prime example of an Obama supporter? YOU HEARD WHAT BROADCASTS?????????? Tell me what "foxhole" in 'Nam were you sitting in when you heard those 30 broadcasts. You are such a pathetic piece of deadwood. You are a disgrace to whatever unit you supposedly served in and to every guy that ever shed a drop of blood or suffered in a POW camp or served in combat for the sake of his country. May your sleep be tortured by the souls of those who gave all for this nation. Don't bother responding -you are not worth posting to. First MIBARS, Saigon, Danang, Vietnam '67-68. We'd hear Americans delivering Anti-American messages all the time. To be honest, I had no idea who McCain was at the time. Ok, now tell us about you military background, badass. ricland
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Coolmind wrote: mccain...bottom of his class at USNA and got shot down and captured and held for 5 yrs while others faught and died.. does that make him presidential material? No. He's no hero.. he's a screw up. It amazes me how these wimpy spoon-fed self-serving pompous dirty diaper Obama supporters think they have a podium to down-play what they could never do or survived. And yes, being a US POW, flying jets, etc. gives John McCain a solid foundation to lead America. Other POWs have been elected, served honorably in government, ran businesses, became teachers, etc. and far exceed college educated punks like Obama. There is a saying amongst those who served during wartime..."All Gave Some, Some Gave All" POWs reside in a special class all their own, a class who Gave All and came back to tell about it.
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Cousin Jethro wrote: Too true to be good, or, too good to be true: http://www.dailyherald.com/story/... Ho Chi Minh is laughing in his grave Hopefully, the above mealy mouth dirty diaper democRat will drown in a cement pond.
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