Obama Expected To Name Running Mate Later This Week

Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama planned a typical day of campaigning Tuesday while speculation flared over when he would announce his choice of running mate.

[Bubba]

What a job, picking a running mate for a guy with no qualifacations to be President. How do you find someone who isn't more experienced, smarter, and can carry this mutt through the dog and pony show he has been putting on. With all the lies Nobama has been telling, who would want to be on a ticket and face constant embarrassment from Nobama. Lies ranging from the Auschwitz Debacle to "his most gut wrenching decision", are all classic of the thngs this guy will say and do to get elected. Who wants to run with a baby killer? Remember Nobama, Jesus said : "that which you to do to the least of them, you do to me". Meaning, if you'll kill a living breathing human being, you'd kill Jesus!!!

[Jamie M]

I want to ask a question to the smart folks out there who support Obama. There are 2 things he has said/done that make me not understand how any intelligent person could support him.

(1) On Saturday night, during his "debate" at the church, Senator Obama was asked when he thinks life begins. He said that question is "above my pay grade". So he's admitting that he's not qualified to render an opinion here, on a topic that many folks are passionate about. I'm sorry, but nothing that is subject to legislation (as abortion is) is above the president's pay grade. We all know his position on abortion, I was just very disappointed that he didn't have the courage to say it. McCain, on the other hand, said flatly he thinks life begins at conception. He said it because that was the honest answer to the question, even though liberals are not going to like that answer. What I mean is, McCain was courageous enough to say what he thinks, while Obama did his best to dodge the issue completely. Why isn't that a turn-off for Obama supporters.

(2) More importantly is Obama's vote on the Infants Born Alive Act. For those who don't know what that is - when Obama was a state senator in IL, there was debate about what to do with babies who survive abortion attempts. At that time, babies who survived abortions, were outside the womb and not physically connected to the Mom in any way, NOT given any food or medical care, and were allowed to wither and die. There was a proposed bill which would require doctors to care for these babies. Obama voted against it. Make no mistake, what Obama did was to support infanticide. A federal version of this bill passed UNANIMOUSLY. That means that even abortion supporters like Ted Kennedy, Hillary Clinton, and Barbara Boxer saw that this was a hideous thing that needed to be stopped. Not Barack Obama.

So how can anyone, anywhere, vote for a man who was OK with the fact that living, full-term babies were allowed to wither and die?

I think I'm pretty reasonable and open-minded, but I don't get it - why would anyone support him, knowing what I just wrote? By the way, I was an Obama supporter until I learned of this. Now I think he's a coward, ansd a radical extremist monster.

[Pain in the Tukas]

Jamie: maybe some of us Obama supporters actually think abortion should remain legal and the choice of the pregnant woman. I bet you cannot understand that concept.

[Jamie M]

Pain in the Tukas wrote:

Jamie: maybe some of us Obama supporters actually think abortion should remain legal and the choice of the pregnant woman. I bet you cannot understand that concept.

I should have said that, even though I am pro-life, I can understand why some folks want to keep that choice available to woman. I can see why you might feel that way.

But answer me this - are you in favor of killing babies who are OUTSIDE THE WOMB? Obama is in favor of that. So where do you draw the line? If you can kill a baby outside the womb, how i sthat any different from a new Mom bringing a week-old baby to the hospital, and saying "I changed my mind, I don't like getting up 4 times a night to feed this, so kill it).

Also, you didn't address why Obama couldn't just say he is in favor of abortion, he had to dodge the issue by saying it's above his pay grade?

Doesn't McCain get some credit for being honest and courageous in his answer?

[Mark]

I don't believe McCain was "courageous" at all the other night when he answered the question as to when life begins. He gave an answer that the Christian right wanted to hear. In the past he has supported abortion rights, now in order to appeal to the republican base he gave an answer they all wanted to hear, nothing more.

[Middletown Res]

Jamie M wrote:

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I should have said that, even though I am pro-life, I can understand why some folks want to keep that choice available to woman. I can see why you might feel that way.
But answer me this - are you in favor of killing babies who are OUTSIDE THE WOMB? Obama is in favor of that. So where do you draw the line? If you can kill a baby outside the womb, how i sthat any different from a new Mom bringing a week-old baby to the hospital, and saying "I changed my mind, I don't like getting up 4 times a night to feed this, so kill it).
Also, you didn't address why Obama couldn't just say he is in favor of abortion, he had to dodge the issue by saying it's above his pay grade?
Doesn't McCain get some credit for being honest and courageous in his answer?

Jamie, The meaning of 'above the pay grade' means only god knows the real answer. Scientists can't even make a determination and personally I don't think a presdiential nominee, you or I can say for certainty. I agree with the previous post, McCain was pandering to the audience.To address your second comment, this is a very hateful,false statement, Obama does NOT and never has supported killing babies outside of the womb. Another untruth spread about Obama.
It's one thing to disagree with someone on any issue, but please do so with the 'facts'.

[Jamie M]

Middletown Res wrote:

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Obama does NOT and never has supported killing babies outside of the womb. Another untruth spread about Obama.
It's one thing to disagree with someone on any issue, but please do so with the 'facts'.

What did I say that was untrue, please be specific? Are you aware of Obama's vote on the "Infants Born Alive Act"? A nurse testified that in her hospital, babies occasionally survived attempted abortions. These babies were born, were outside the womb, and the cord was cut between the baby and the Mom. The babies were ALIVE. In these cases, the doctors ORDERED that the babies be placed in a bin, and that no one was alllowed to care for them. Those babies whithered and died. A bill was proposed that would have made that illegal, and that would have required doctors to care for those babies. That bill passed 100-0 in the US Senate. Barack Obama votd AGAINST it when we was a state senator in IL.

All of that is 100% true. What did I say that was hateful?

PLEASE, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT I JUST WROTE THAT WASN't ACCURATE.

Also, if one supports abortion, as Obama does, doesn't that mean that you don't think life begins at conception? Because if you DO believe that life begins at conception, and you are in favor of abortion, then you are in favor of murder.

[Tom D]

Middletown res,

What was written about by Jamie M., was fact.
It's been on most of the news stations.

He had an oppotunity to vote for the bill, which was identical (word for word) to the Federal bill, and he did not.

You wrote:
"Obama does NOT and never has supported killing babies outside of the womb. Another untruth spread about Obama. It's one thing to disagree with someone on any issue, but please do so with the 'facts'"

YES HE HAS.

The fact of the matter is, you are either ignorant about that which you have written, or you are lying.
In either case you rebuke of Jamie M. was uncalled for.

The best advice I have for you, came from you:

"It's one thing to disagree with someone on any issue, but please do so with the 'facts'"

[Jamie M]

Middletown Res wrote:

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McCain was pandering to the audience.

McCain wasn't pandering to the audience, he gave an honest, direct answer to the question that was asked. It was an answer that accurately reflects McCain's opinion on this matter, and it was an answer that McCain knew was going to anger a lot of pro-choice people out there - that's what makes it courageous, that McCain said it, even though he knew it would turn many people off.

Obama, on the other hand, chose to dodge the question completely. We all know he favors abortion, so why couldn't he just say it? HE was the one pandering to the crowd, because he would have answered that question VERY DIFFERENTLY if he was talking to a liberal audience!

Anyway, I digress. I want to know what you think was inaccurate about my statement that Senator Obama voted in favor of killing babies out of the womb. That statement is absolutely 100% accurate. Please tell me where I'm wrong. If you have any facts, please share them.

I

[donkeyman]

obama will choice ROVE for his v.p. hes going after the conservative vote.

[Jamie M]

Tom D wrote:

Middletown res,
What was written about by Jamie M., was fact.
It's been on most of the news stations.
He had an oppotunity to vote for the bill, which was identical (word for word) to the Federal bill, and he did not.
You wrote:
"Obama does NOT and never has supported killing babies outside of the womb. Another untruth spread about Obama. It's one thing to disagree with someone on any issue, but please do so with the 'facts'"
YES HE HAS.
The fact of the matter is, you are either ignorant about that which you have written, or you are lying.
In either case you rebuke of Jamie M. was uncalled for.
The best advice I have for you, came from you:
"It's one thing to disagree with someone on any issue, but please do so with the 'facts'"

Thanks Tom!

I just want one Obama supporter out there, to admit the fact that Obama voted in favor of killing babies outside the womb (which is undeniable fact), and tell me why they still support him. That sounds like a reasonable request.

To me, a politician that supports infanticide is not my kind of guy.

What is it about McCain, a war hero who is also a good guy (has an adopted daughter from Bangladesh), that is so awful that you would prefer someone who supports infanticide?

[Urbanite]

What does McCain having a daughter from Bangladash have to do with anything?

[Democrats AGAINST Obama]

Lets just hope his running mate has some political experience, that would make up for Obama's extreme lack of experience.

[No to McSame]

Jamie M wrote:

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What is it about McCain, a war hero who is also a good guy (has an adopted daughter from Bangladesh), that is so awful that you would prefer someone who supports infanticide?

Do you include the fact that he cheated on and then left his crippled first wife for a younger, prettier millionaire heiress in the "good guy" category? Do you really support someone who wants to put tens of thousands of young American lives at risk in Iraq for over 100 years with no real plan or reason for their being there? Do you want a man who was born before half of the countries in the world today even existed to be in charge of foreign policy? Do you want a proven sufferer of PTSD with his finger on the button? Do you want a guy who has admitted to knowing nothing about the economy to be in charge? Do you want the same old Beltway politics, subservient to lobbyists (McCain has a history of bending to lobbyist pressure, even going against his loosely-defined "positions" to earn a few bucks)? Do you want four more years of Bush?

You'd get all of that with John McSame.

[Middletown Res]

Jamie M wrote:

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What did I say that was untrue, please be specific? Are you aware of Obama's vote on the "Infants Born Alive Act"? A nurse testified that in her hospital, babies occasionally survived attempted abortions. These babies were born, were outside the womb, and the cord was cut between the baby and the Mom. The babies were ALIVE. In these cases, the doctors ORDERED that the babies be placed in a bin, and that no one was alllowed to care for them. Those babies whithered and died. A bill was proposed that would have made that illegal, and that would have required doctors to care for those babies. That bill passed 100-0 in the US Senate. Barack Obama votd AGAINST it when we was a state senator in IL.
All of that is 100% true. What did I say that was hateful?
PLEASE, PLEASE TELL ME WHAT I JUST WROTE THAT WASN't ACCURATE.
Also, if one supports abortion, as Obama does, doesn't that mean that you don't think life begins at conception? Because if you DO believe that life begins at conception, and you are in favor of abortion, then you are in favor of murder.

First and foremost, I personally am against abortion. Do I have an idea when I think life begins, yes, but that's between me and myself.

Why did I find your post hateful? I find it appalling when people spread half truths or untruths about another person. Throughout this whole campaign, it has made me literally sick to my stomach the vicious stories that have been spread re:Obama. I cannot believe adults are partaking in this behavior, I would expect it at a HS level. Disgusting.... and people call themselves Christians, yeah right.
If the story is true about the Nurse in Illinois, I have an issue with the Doctors, where are their ethics and conscience ?

Obama was interviewed (last week?) and he clearly stated he does not support the act of denying a baby medical assistance, that he voted 'Present' because the bill undermined Roe vs.Wade. Other than the so-called 'Christian' websites, not one shred of evidence has countered his statement.

As a side note, you state you are against abortion-I hope you aren't voting for McCain either then, since he supports the Iraq war. The loss of 4,000+ lives is murder as well.

[Middletown Res]

Tom D wrote:

Middletown res,
What was written about by Jamie M., was fact.
It's been on most of the news stations.
He had an oppotunity to vote for the bill, which was identical (word for word) to the Federal bill, and he did not.
You wrote:
"Obama does NOT and never has supported killing babies outside of the womb. Another untruth spread about Obama. It's one thing to disagree with someone on any issue, but please do so with the 'facts'"
YES HE HAS.
The fact of the matter is, you are either ignorant about that which you have written, or you are lying.
In either case you rebuke of Jamie M. was uncalled for.
The best advice I have for you, came from you:
"It's one thing to disagree with someone on any issue, but please do so with the 'facts'"

Which news stations do you listen to, Fox, Limbaugh's radio show?

For the record, I am neither ignorant or lying. Typical statement from someone who clearly has selevtive hearing or dissects stories to create his own version. I'll leave the ignorance to those who have been spewing lies and hatred. It is disgusting the attacks that are consistently made against Obama.

[Jamie M]

No to McSame wrote:

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Do you include the fact that he cheated on and then left his crippled first wife for a younger, prettier millionaire heiress in the "good guy" category? Do you really support someone who wants to put tens of thousands of young American lives at risk in Iraq for over 100 years with no real plan or reason for their being there? Do you want a man who was born before half of the countries in the world today even existed to be in charge of foreign policy? Do you want a proven sufferer of PTSD with his finger on the button? Do you want a guy who has admitted to knowing nothing about the economy to be in charge? Do you want the same old Beltway politics, subservient to lobbyists (McCain has a history of bending to lobbyist pressure, even going against his loosely-defined "positions" to earn a few bucks)? Do you want four more years of Bush?
You'd get all of that with John McSame.

OK, you have at least 1 good point there, that McCain was unfaithful to his first wife. The difference between him & Obama is, McCain admits it as his worst failure as a human being.

As for your concerns about the war, you need to update your facts. Obama is no longer calling for a super-quick pullout, even he knows that's not realistic. There is VERY little difference between the 2 candidates on how to proceed with the war (they did differ at first, on whether or not to invade). Obama, like McCain, has said that he would not be opposed to an American "presence" in Iraq for the long term, as long as Americans weren't getting hurt. They are in agreement on that point. When McCain made the 100 years comment, he explicitly said that it would happen under the condition that there were no casualties. Obama forgets to mention that when he criticies McCain. Oh, and McCain has lots of reasons for being there - we deposed a ruthless dictator, and brought denmocracy and freedom to a region that has never seen it before. Again, the media doesn't report this, because it doesn't serve the liberal agenda, but the majority of that country is far better off now - they are building homes, schools, hospitals, businesses are popping up. I was opposedto this invasion by the way, but McCain had reasons that made sense to him. And you are wrong that he doesn't have a plan - McCain was calling for the "surge" years ago, and it turns out he was EXACTLY correct!

As for McCain's age, that's totally irelevant to most folks, as is Obaba's color.

McCain didn't admit to knowing "nothing" about the economy, he said it wasn't his area of expertise. That's why a president needs advisors, because no single person is the world's greatest expert on all topics.

McCain is same old Beltway politics? He has repeatedly gottem himself in trouble with his own party by agreeing to work productively. That's why people like Rush won't endorse him. See my point above on the "surge" in Iraq - McCain was critical of Bush/Rumsfeld for not implementing a surge years ago. McCain took a lot of heat for that. Obama, on the other hand, has zero working experience with working productively with Republicans. There is a good reason for that of course - because he hasn't done anything as a US Senator, except campaign to be president.

McCain is 4 more years of Bush? That's stupid, it would be like me saying that Obama is 4 more years of Jimmy Carter.

Go drink some more Kool-Aid!

[Jamie M]

Middletown Res wrote:

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First and foremost, I personally am against abortion. Do I have an idea when I think life begins, yes, but that's between me and myself.
Why did I find your post hateful? I find it appalling when people spread half truths or untruths about another person. Throughout this whole campaign, it has made me literally sick to my stomach the vicious stories that have been spread re:Obama. I cannot believe adults are partaking in this behavior, I would expect it at a HS level. Disgusting.... and people call themselves Christians, yeah right.
If the story is true about the Nurse in Illinois, I have an issue with the Doctors, where are their ethics and conscience ?
Obama was interviewed (last week?) and he clearly stated he does not support the act of denying a baby medical assistance, that he voted 'Present' because the bill undermined Roe vs.Wade. Other than the so-called 'Christian' websites, not one shred of evidence has countered his statement.
As a side note, you state you are against abortion-I hope you aren't voting for McCain either then, since he supports the Iraq war. The loss of 4,000+ lives is murder as well.

Your post is very incostent and rambling, which makes it hard to respond to.

First, I asked you, specifically, what was untrue about what I said. You responded with this:

"I find it appalling when people spread half truths or untruths about another person."

That doesn't really tell me, specifically, what you claim was untrue in my post, does it?

Then you say this:

"If the story is true about the Nurse in Illinois"

This indicates, obviously, that you don't know for sure if babies were being killed in Illinois. Yet you follow it with this:

"he voted 'Present' because the bill undermined Roe vs.Wade."

So you know why Obaba says he voted the way he did, but you aren't sure the event ever happened??

Anyway, if you know WHY he voted that way, than you onbiously know that the vote took place, right? You admit he declined to vote for a bill which would require doctors to care for babies that survive abortion?

So in Obaba's own words, the specific language of the bill was more important than making sure that babies aren't left to starve to death?

How can Obama say he's opposed to letting babies die, but NOT vote in favor of the only bill that cojuld save these babies? Isn't that incostent?

And why did the US Senate vote unanimously to support the bill? Not just Republicans, mind you, but Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, and Ted Kennedy. They ALL agreed that babies outside the womb had tro have legal protection. Barack Obama disagrees.

Obaba can SAY whatever he wants to say, but the fact is, he did not vote in favor of that bill. His words are in DIRECT contradiction with his actions, are they not?

[Jamie M]

Middletown Res wrote:

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Which news stations do you listen to, Fox, Limbaugh's radio show?
For the record, I am neither ignorant or lying. Typical statement from someone who clearly has selevtive hearing or dissects stories to create his own version. I'll leave the ignorance to those who have been spewing lies and hatred. It is disgusting the attacks that are consistently made against Obama.

Sorry, after reading your posts, and seeing your name (Middletown Resident), I can only assume that you are a patient at Connecticut Valley Hospital. Good luck to you.

[Clueless]

Middletown Res wrote:

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First and foremost, I personally am against abortion. Do I have an idea when I think life begins, yes, but that's between me and myself.
Why did I find your post hateful? I find it appalling when people spread half truths or untruths about another person. Throughout this whole campaign, it has made me literally sick to my stomach the vicious stories that have been spread re:Obama. I cannot believe adults are partaking in this behavior, I would expect it at a HS level. Disgusting.... and people call themselves Christians, yeah right.
If the story is true about the Nurse in Illinois, I have an issue with the Doctors, where are their ethics and conscience ?
Obama was interviewed (last week?) and he clearly stated he does not support the act of denying a baby medical assistance, that he voted 'Present' because the bill undermined Roe vs.Wade. Other than the so-called 'Christian' websites, not one shred of evidence has countered his statement.
As a side note, you state you are against abortion-I hope you aren't voting for McCain either then, since he supports the Iraq war. The loss of 4,000+ lives is murder as well.

Look at the post above yours (14), same baloney except it's about McCain. Most of Obama's vote were "present". What does that tell you? Abortion isn't going away whether Obama gets in or not, but partial-birth, and letting babies who survive it die, should.