'The War Is Not Over'

[interested Observer]

new yawk wrote:

Every time a peace process was brokered, The Palestinians reniged. Land for peace is also a red herring. The Palestinians do not want peace.
They want the land, all of it. And Israel dead.
And the land they want is strategic to Israel's National Borders of security, first strike advantage. Though I am in agreement of freedon for the Palestinians, it should not be at the cost of Israels' security. It's a bad deal for Israel.
Second, Islamic government should only be operating in Islamic nations and countries.
No shariah law in Democratic Nations.
Third, the separation of church and state has been so misinterpreted and misconstrued from its original intent and meaning that people misuse it for special interest advantages. Our Founding Fathers wrote that clause as meaning The Federal Government could impose no specific, particular religion or faith on any State. Not that all religious faiths should be suppressed, as Christianity is now being suppressed and persecuted in this Country, while ironically the Islamic faith is being catered to.
When we have taken "One Nation Under God" out of our Pledge Of Allegiance, it demonstrates how misguided our politicians have become.
The Founding Fathers never meant separation of church and state to be used in this manner.
But, the leftist liberal loons did.
It's not ironic, or on both sides of the fence if you understand its origianl meaning, purpose and intent.
I agree with you regarding the Iraq situation.
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But some of your Founding Fathers were not Deists at all...at least, that is my understanding, though I'm willing to hear from those of you who care to dissent.

[Muslim]

Peace,
Respectfully.

War in Iraq will end with the departure of Bush.
Bush has lead USA into a ditch and USA needs to get back on the Straight Path by accepting Islam, the Real islam not what you see in the Mid-East or TV.

Peace.

[interested Observer]

crusty wrote:

<quoted text>u promise....that 5 bucks a gallon will not someday seem ridiculously cheap.....I used to think that about 2 bucks per gallon...u know...not to long ago either

spoke to sister in law yesterday....
$2.60 or so in Italy....a litre!

[crusty]

Nightshift wrote:

more comments..
When the second collapse happened (the North Tower, WTC1) I captured it on my Olympus E-10. Now here's the interesting part, at the start of the collapse I felt a strong shockwave pass over me as we stood on the balcony - a single strong pulse of invisible energy. After I finished snapping photographs of the North Tower's collapse, I turned to my friend and asked, "did you feel that?" His stunned reply was "yes".
http://www.911blogger.com/node/15814

"yes" "I knew I shouldn't have eaten so many refried bean tacos"

[interested Observer]

GJ Brain Damaged at Birth wrote:

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Man is the highest manifestation of God. It is our psychic nature that invents our religions. Our man god can be very vindictive by nature and his wrath appears to be limitless. A cornered rat is a pansy compared to cornered men. Never unnecessarily risk inviting reprisals and 9/11 demonstrated that even a super power is vulnerable. Their anger and outrage expressed over that raid will end up costing America a hundred fold the damage inflicted on day 9/11. To bad they do not buy into the concept of forgiveness. But then again maybe they see keeping Israel safe as worth the cost?

Geez Moriarity, I only asked about your religiuos convictions.
Hope you're sitting down, as this will come as a shock ...not everything is about the Arab/Israeli conflict.
Get Mrs GJ!
You need that slap to the back of the head...nothing too hard, just a swipe with the fingertips is usually sufficient
;-)

[interested Observer]

crusty wrote:

and music ....if clapton was from america I'd be all done withs ya

Clapton?
Pshaw!!!
Knoffler is much tastier ;-)

[crusty]

interested Observer wrote:

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Some of the reporting from the war zone has been exemplary...and honest.
Michael Ware, Nic Robertson to name two journalists who will tell you whats really going on, on the ground.
Its about where the media moguls choose to place the emphasis.
Its not the editors, or even the exec's, its the 'straight from the top ' interference which is the issue.
Haven't you been reading about or listening to the media critics?
Bill Moyer would be a good place to start.

that's why I site al jazeera and al alam that absolutely never happens with those guys

http://www.alalam.ir/English/en-NewsPage.asp...

Al-Hashemi further said that the prime minister's stance is well indicative of the Iraqi nation's will which stipulates Iraq sovereignty, expulsion of occupiers, seizing powers from the US officials, not granting them impunity and not allowing them to establish military bases for launching attack on neighboring countries.

see Iraqi nation is all on it's own...Iranians say so.....

[Johnny English]

Muslim wrote:

Peace,
Respectfully.
War in Iraq will end with the departure of Bush.
Bush has lead USA into a ditch and USA needs to get back on the Straight Path by accepting Islam, the Real islam not what you see in the Mid-East or TV.
Peace.

What is the real Islam?

Im not getting onto you here, but there are some major differences between Islam and Western culture, which we cannot accept. The West has moved beyond the need for religion.

Its just not possible, and we dont want it. Its nothing against you or your beliefs but Islam is not for us.

[bill smith]

crusty wrote:

<quoted text>excpt for that corner that was knocked off from twins debris hitting it(hours earlier)...maybe they designed that corner with no supports,,,yah I'm sure that must be it

It's almost funny Crusty. It's so obvious from you and Homer's answers on WTC7 that you KNOW it was a controlled demolition. I hope you lnow that if it WAS a CD then so were the Twin Towers. That almost certainly means that all of 9/11 can be laid at the governmnet's door. The 3,000 dead also. So it is not a light matter.

[Johnny English]

GJ Brain Damaged at Birth wrote:

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My favorite Americanized war movie is the one where the Brave AMERICANS rescue the Enigma machine from a sinking German U Boat. I would love to hear Arbg explain this one. Americans believe this crap.

Not seen that one, but it doesnt surprise me the Yanks would take credit for finding the enigma machine. According to most movies they won the war all by themselves. In fact i cant recall a movie where the Soviets play any significant part, which is odd given the fact they won the war and demolished Berlin causing Hitler to blow his own head off before Britain, America and Canada even arrived.

[GJ Brain Damaged at Birth]

Johnny English wrote:

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What is the real Islam?
Im not getting onto you here, but there are some major differences between Islam and Western culture, which we cannot accept. The West has moved beyond the need for religion.
Its just not possible, and we dont want it. Its nothing against you or your beliefs but Islam is not for us.

Excuse me for a minute as I have a pesky Christian JW trying to sell me that philosophy you are trying to move away from, at my door.

[crusty]

interested Observer wrote:

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Clapton?
Pshaw!!!
Knoffler is much tastier ;-)

what about a duo

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[crusty]

bill smith wrote:

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It's almost funny Crusty. It's so obvious from you and Homer's answers on WTC7 that you KNOW it was a controlled demolition. I hope you lnow that if it WAS a CD then so were the Twin Towers. That almost certainly means that all of 9/11 can be laid at the governmnet's door. The 3,000 dead also. So it is not a light matter.

your powers of deductive reasoning r truly amazing Bill..

:-)

at least u said

"almost" ........."certainly means"

[interested Observer]

chazmo wrote:

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LOL...
Older than dirt?...
I still refer to my son's music as 'albums'...
He just shakes his head...
But put all of mine (music) on his Ipod...
And all of his on my wife's...
It's not sports with us...
It's movies...sushi...and music...
Life is good...

you kidding
I still have a steamer trunk full of 'albums', some going back to 1903.
Shhhhh, tell no one, but most of my best music is still on cassette.
Sounds like you're enjoying a happy long weekend...party on !
Any particular type of music?

[crusty]

GJ Brain Damaged at Birth wrote:

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Excuse me for a minute as I have a pesky Christian JW trying to sell me that philosophy you are trying to move away from, at my door.

Mormons too.....move to Iran they'll be taken care of if they were at one time muslims...

[Johnny English]

GJ Brain Damaged at Birth wrote:

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Excuse me for a minute as I have a pesky Christian JW trying to sell me that philosophy you are trying to move away from, at my door.

The bulk of the West is now secular. What makes you think it will embrace a new religion it barely understands?

[interested Observer]

chazmo wrote:

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Wives are good for that...
House is my job...so it's a disaster...
Wife puts in her 60+ hours at work...
And puts me to work there too...
When we both had careers, the agreement was whoever's career showed more promise...
We would put our energy into that one...
Worked out well...hers came first so I took up the home slack...
Then 5 years later a broken back killed mine off...
Funny how life is...
But without my wife behind me with the 'list'...
I'd be enjoying my own pity party...
No time for that these days...

i know back problems are the worst and chronic.
You seem to cope well even so.......
The ubiquitous list....bet if we compared notes, they would all be pretty much the same too.

[Johnny English]

crusty wrote:

<quoted text>Mormons too.....move to Iran they'll be taken care of if they were at one time muslims...

I love Mormons!

Name another religion that makes you laugh as much as they do?

Have you seen Orgazmo or South Parks- All about Mormons?

[crusty]

how much per gallon in Malaysia

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia-pacifi...

Halliburton over there 2?

[interested Observer]

chazmo wrote:

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Will do...
And don't forget...
Chef
Coupling
And Black Adder...

A serious, serious, serious profession..yeah!
Love Black Adder to, anything with Rowan Atkinson is good.
you give 'em a try too Arbs.....its all public tv stuff!