Whispers get loud around Michelle Obama

[Carol]

Denise wrote:

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Pure capitalist Haitians are eating dirt. Marxism would be an improvement for those dying of starvation in Haiti.

Agreed - and that is a good example for how the principles of Marxism are established for the betterment of a society.

[Carol]

Former Democrat wrote:

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So now that your candidate lost...you are voting Party Lines instead of AMERICA FIRST ?
Had you voted AMERICA FIRST...instead of Women's Rights...in your convoluded, midguided mind...you would not have voted Democrat in the first place...and quickly changed to Republican upon finding your candidate was NOT BEST FOR AMERICA.
NO BLACK SUPREMIST MARXISTS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!
McCAIN 08!!!

Former Dem -

How can you are not singing the praises of radical Zionism the way you did in the last forum we were in together?

For the record everyone - I have sympathy for BOTH the innocent Israelis and Palestinians in the Middle East - I was called a "anti-Semite" by Former Dem because of it.

[Carol]

Former Democrat wrote:

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So now that your candidate lost...you are voting Party Lines instead of AMERICA FIRST ?

"America first" - or Israel first Former Dem?

[Carol]

Former Democrat wrote:

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YOU are lieing. Flat out. YOU are Denise aka WatchDog from New Baltimore, MI...a former Hillary supporter and avidly campaigned against Obama...until Hillary was so overwhelmed that she had no chance...that is when you suddenly formed alliances with Obamanations...induced by a silly woman who you proclaimed as being "The Real Deal" because she was writing a book about Back Swamp Slave Lords in Louisianna in the 1920's. LMAO!!!
ALL of the ancestors that woman claimed to have "experienced" her fantasy enslavement were found on census records...living a middle class lifestyle. She then denied those were her ancestors. Uh, huh. Right.
You would eat dog shit if Obama said it was pudding. What is worse...you would try and convince others to do the same...to make yourself right.

MEDS!!! You forgot your meds again!!!

[Carol]

DRJohn and Syntaxterrorsix -

I TRULY am enjoying the debate - I do not want to offend either of you as you have been staunch defenders of your issues without being disrespectful to opposing posters - this is appreciated by me.

I do not think my posts have reflected that - so I thought it necessary to post.

[Carol]

Former Dem - you have a tendency to try and control the boards with nonsense.

I will no longer reply to your posts UNLESS you stick to the issues and/or REASON as opposed to REACT.

[Former Democrat]

Robin The First wrote:

Thanks for the luv guys.
Thanks for the luv...
No really...
I'm blushing...
Maybe it's the Rum & Diet Coke?
Or that picture of Che on my screensaver...

Yeah, yeah, Robin...even Charles Manson has followers who worship him...those hippie gals thought he was a hunk, too. That's what drugs do for you. Nice.

[Estrella]

Carol wrote:

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"Karl" and "Fred" were trying to feed the masses at the time. The majority of us are not starving currently - the concept of Marxism therefore absurd.

Carol, I don't know if you've been to the supermarket or the gas pumps lately, and I really hate to burst your bubble, but those of us that aren't starving are getting there fast. I volunteer at a local food bank and can't tell you how many so-called "middle class" families I've seen in the last month that have to ask for help from the food bank because they had to make the decision between buying gas and keeping their jobs and putting food on the table for their kids. Unfortunately, these are the same people that M.Obama is saying will have to "do with less so others can have more." How much less can we ask working America to scrape by with to fund social programs, not only within our borders, but to fund B.Obama's fundamentally naive and overreaching "Global Welfare" program?

[Kats]

OBAMA..Wrong Racist Wife
OBAMA..Wrong on Guns
OBAMA..Wrong on Health Care
OBAMA..Wrong on Abortion
OBAMA..Wrong on Taxes
OBAMA..Wrong on the War Against Terrorism
OBAMA..Wrong on Drilling for Oil
OBAMA..Wrong on Wright
OBAMA..Weak as a U.S. Senator
OBAMA..Weak on Foreign Affairs
OBAMA..Racist Associations
OBAMA..Louis Farrakhan Clone
OBAMA..Africa First...America Second
OBAMA..Muslims First...Americans Second
OBAMA..Empty Suit
OBAMA..Closet Muslim
OBAMA..Wrong for The United States of America

No OBAMA in 2008
Change We CAN'T Believe In
Everything You Need To Know
http://www.dontvoteobama.net/

"A Government Big Enough To Give You Everything You Want....Is Strong Enough To Take Everything You Have."
..........Thomas Jefferson..........

CAVEAT EMPTOR

[Carol]

Estrella wrote:

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Carol, I don't know if you've been to the supermarket or the gas pumps lately, and I really hate to burst your bubble, but those of us that aren't starving are getting there fast. I volunteer at a local food bank and can't tell you how many so-called "middle class" families I've seen in the last month that have to ask for help from the food bank because they had to make the decision between buying gas and keeping their jobs and putting food on the table for their kids. Unfortunately, these are the same people that M.Obama is saying will have to "do with less so others can have more." How much less can we ask working America to scrape by with to fund social programs, not only within our borders, but to fund B.Obama's fundamentally naive and overreaching "Global Welfare" program?

No - Obama is taxing those who earn $250,000 or more.

I am middle class too - AND certainly relate to your post.

[Former Democrat]

syntaxerrorsix wrote:

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Yes it is, by its very definition, by its very NAME! It's just a 'little bit' of it, Obama wants more.
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You think the rich are going to collect Social Security? Yeah I bet they are just waiting by the mailbox. Once they have paid in to the cap of $90,000 why do they need to contribute more? Why don't you catch up? Oh I get it, you want them to pay your share too...Ok got it..
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Ever heard the phrase taxation without representation? Fair taxes huh? Please provide some insight into this 'fair taxes' theory of yours.
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Just like I thought, time and time again you prove this is not about the issues it's it's about white woman and racism. I think I'm done responding to you.

Until Obama became the nominee...for DENISE aka WatchDog, it was ALL about the White Woman...now it is ALL about Race...which is Obama's trump card in this campaign...and has been from the beginning...DENISE use to fight against that Race Card...but she flipped to using it when she changed to Obama.

[Former Democrat]

Denise wrote:

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You personally insult then throw out the unwarranted term 'marxist'. You might as well have said, "Obama is ____"
First thing he 'd be labeled in America is, black.

Obama labeled himself Black...because he got more mileage out of being Black than White.

Obama is Mulatto...not politically correct, but PRECISLY CORRECT.

psst: No one gives a crap about political correctness...that game is passe...moot...done with...over.

NO BLACK SUPREMIST MARXISTS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!
McCAIN 08!!!

[Chester DeGrasse]

Bob Skilnik wrote:

Attention All Marxists:
Keep your hands out of my pockets.

That goes double for Barnie Frank.

[syntaxerrorsix]

Carol wrote:

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No - Obama is taxing those who earn $250,000 or more.
I am middle class too - AND certainly relate to your post.

250k is not exactly rich, but it does include most small business owners that will now have to increase the cost of products and cut their budget for employee raises or new jobs to compensate for this 'tax'

There is a good chance the small business I volunteer at won't survive this tax as the markup for our products are quite small and the only true income comes from instruction.

A 250k business - Roofing Co., Plumbing Co., Local car mechanic, Franchise Restaurants like Starbucks, McDonalds these are owned by an individual. You are eroding away all small business's with this tax and you will feel the results of it.

[Carol]

syntaxerrorsix wrote:

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Another prime example of a defunct education system. I said it once, I'll say it one last time, Denise you are extremely hateful and misinformed. You enjoy that little world of unsubstantiated facts and being ruled by emotional stretches of the imagination that Walt Disney himself would be proud of. I care not to debate with someone that cannot see past the end of their nose and throws racism around as an excuse to be ignorant. Good luck with your life.

I have to put my two cents in. I do not see Denise as "hateful" at all.

And the "poetic license" she occasionally takes - "eating gruel from the floor" brings home a point.

[Carol]

Chester DeGrasse wrote:

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That goes double for Barnie Frank.

Ken Lay and his disciples are the only one allowed to pick pockets.

[Carol]

syntaxerrorsix wrote:

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250k is not exactly rich, but it does include most small business owners that will now have to increase the cost of products and cut their budget for employee raises or new jobs to compensate for this 'tax'
There is a good chance the small business I volunteer at won't survive this tax as the markup for our products are quite small and the only true income comes from instruction.
A 250k business - Roofing Co., Plumbing Co., Local car mechanic, Franchise Restaurants like Starbucks, McDonalds these are owned by an individual. You are eroding away all small business's with this tax and you will feel the results of it.

http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/...

I would appreciate your thoughts on the above - if you care to comment on them.

I believe this to be a good comparison of both candidates's position on tax reform.

I am going golfing - and will return to the board later.

[Former Democrat]

syntaxerrorsix wrote:

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If that is not the mindset of Karl I don't know what is, do you have link to that quote?

That statement was made just about the time Michelle was saying Americans are down right mean...and a statement about other's having to give up a piece of their pie. Then, they shut her up and gave her a new image....giving someone a new image should trigger the fact that the person is not being themselves...but that does not bother Moonbats...they love an image.

[Former Democrat]

Carol wrote:

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"Karl" and "Fred" were trying to feed the masses at the time. The majority of us are not starving currently - the concept of Marxism therefore absurd.

How was Hitler able to become Chancellor in January 1933?

The story of why Hitler came to power is about the reasons why the German people lost their senses and allowed a vicious madman to come to power. What could have brought this about?
All the following were present from the 1920s:
1. Long-term bitterness
Deep anger about the First World War and the Treaty of Versailles created an underlying bitterness to which Hitler’s viciousness and expansionism appealed, so they gave him support.
2. Ineffective Constitution
Weaknesses in the Constitution crippled the government. In fact, there were many people in Germany who wanted a return to dictatorship. When the crisis came in 1929–1933 – there was no one who was prepared or able to fight to stop Hitler.
3. Money
The financial support of wealthy businessmen gave Hitler the money to run his propaganda and election campaigns.
4. Propaganda
Nazi propaganda persuaded the German masses to believe that the Jews were to blame and that Hitler was their last hope.
5. Programme
Hitler promised everybody something, so they supported him.
6. Attacks on other parties
The Stormtroopers attacked Jews and people who opposed Hitler. Many opponents kept quiet simply because they were scared of being murdered – and, if they were, the judges simply let the Stormtroopers go free (see point 2).
7. Personal Qualities
Hitler was a brilliant speaker, and his eyes had a peculiar power over people. He was a good organiser and politician. He was a driven, unstable man, who believed that he had been called by God to become dictator of Germany and rule the world. This kept him going when other people might have given up. His self-belief persuaded people to believe in him.
After 1929, however, two short-term factors brought Hitler to power:
8. Economic Depression
After the Wall Street Crash of 1929, the US called in its loans to Germany, and the German economy collapsed. The Number of unemployed grew; people starved on the streets. In the crisis, people wanted someone to blame, and looked to extreme solutions – Hitler offered them both, and Nazi success in the elections grew.
Germans turned to Nazism because they were desperate. The number of Nazi seats in the Reichstag rose from 12 in 1928 to 230 in July 1932.
9. Recruited by Hindenburg
In November 1932 elections the Nazis again failed to get a majority of seats in the Reichstag. Their share of the vote fell – from 230 seats to only 196. Hitler contemplated suicide. But then he was rescued by Hindenburg.
Franz von Papen (a friend of Hindenburg) was Chancellor, but he could not get enough support in the Reichstag. Hindenburg and von Papen were having to govern by emergency decree under Article 48 of the Constitution. They offered Hitler the post of vice-Chancellor if he promised to support them.
Hitler refused – he demanded to be made Chancellor. So Von Papen and Hindenburg took a risk. On 30 January 1933 Hindenburg made Hitler Chancellor. He thought he could control Hitler – how wrong he was.
In the end, Hitler did not TAKE power at all – he was given it.

Well said, and for those who don't know history they are doomed to repeat it. How frightening it is to see how similar Obama's rise to prominence mirrors Hitler's.

[Former Democrat]

Carol wrote:

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I see that you are a Libertarian as I have stated prior and therefore I believe YOU are voting on the issues and not race.
The forums generally attract racists due to the anonymity of posting - they can say anything they want without getting decked. The threads therefore cannot be used to adequately profile Republicans and Democrats. BUT, since MANY comments were indeed racist as well as "anti-socialist"- and in the same post - one can conclude that some Republicans as well as Democrats in the forums are racist.

Obama is a Racist...he ascribes to the teachings of Black Liberation Theology.

Obama is a Marxist...he ascribes to the dogma of Karl Marx.

NO BLACK SUPREMIST MARXISTS IN THE WHITE HOUSE!!!
McCAIN 08!!!