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ENOUGH: MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DIE IN THE WAR! MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA ECONOMY DIE IN THIS WAR? MCCAIN/BUSH POOR JUDGMENT ON DAY ONE LEGAL RIGHTS ARE IMPORTANT FOR ALL PEOPLE. AMERICANS ARE HUMAN FIRST AND WE NEED TO WORK TO HELP THIS DYING ECONOMY AND SOTP THE DEATH OF MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS. WILL JOHN MCCAIN TELL YOU ANYTHING TO GET YOUR VOTE? HOW CAN JOHN MCCAIN FLY U.S. NAVY JETS IN VIETNAM IF MCCAIN HAD POOR GRADED AND CRASHED U.S. MILITARY AIRCRAFT? WILL MCCAIN DO ANYTHING TO GET YOUR VOTE? DID JOHN MCCAIN PROMISE AMERICA SUMMER GAS? McCain's third crash three occurred when he was returning from flying a Navy trainer solo to Philadelphia for an Army-Navy football game. http://www.commondreams.org/views/021400-102.... 2007 Mar 2, 2007 - During naval flight training, McCain had several close calls, including a crash in Corpus Christi Bay and a collision with power lines in Spain.... McCain escaped from his jet, but was struck in the legs and chest by shrapnel when a bomb exploded underneath his airplane.... From McCain trivia - AZ Central.com VOTE wrote: http://www.issues2000.org/John _McCain.htm John McCain on Civil Rights Click here for 40 full quotes on Civil Rights OR 3 older headlines OR other candidates on Civil Rights OR background on Civil Rights. Voted against MLK holiday in 1983; now calls that a mistake.(Apr 2008) Leave gay marriage to the states.(Jan 2007) http://www.issues2000.org/Barack_Obama.htm Barrack Obama on Civil Rights Click here for 49 full quotes on Civil Rights OR other candidates on Civil Rights OR background on Civil Rights. No black or white America--just United States of America.(Oct 2006) Gays should not face discrimination but should not marry.(Oct 2004) REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS YOUR VOTES ARE IMPORTANT! MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DIE IN THIS WAR! MIDDLE CLASS AMERICAN ECONOMY DIE BECAUSE OF THE WAR! DO JOHN MCCAIN WANT TO KEEP FIGHTING A WAR? AMERICA NEED TO UNITE AND GO FORWARD. WILL JOHN MCCAIN TELL YOU ANYTHING TO GET A VOTE?
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MACBUSH ATTACK
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WHY: THE PAY FOR BY JOHN MCCAIN SMARE ATTACK ON TOPIX?
DID JOHN MCCAIN SAY HE WOULD NOT ATTACK A CANDIDATE WITH SMEARS?
IS JOHN MCCAIN LIKE PRESIDENT BUSH?
The anatomy of a smear campaign
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RussBLib Wed Dec-31-69 03:00 PM
Member since May 06th 2002
10023 posts
"What Bush did to McCain in the 2000 S. C. primary"
Bush Waged Nasty Smear Campaign Against McCain in 2000
Bush Supporters Called McCain “The Fag Candidate.” In South Carolina, Bush supporters circulated church fliers that labeled McCain “the fag candidate.” Columnist Frank Rich noted that the fliers were distributed “even as Bush subtly reinforced that message by indicating he wouldn’t hire openly gay people for his administration.”
McCain Slurs Included Homosexuality And A Drug-Addict Wife.
Among the rumors circulated against McCain in 2000 in South Carolina...
Bush Campaign Used Code Words to Question McCain’s Temper.
“A smear campaign of the ugliest sort is now coursing through the contest for the presidency in 2000. Using the code word "temper," a group of Senate Republicans, and at least some outriders of the George W. Bush campaign, are spreading the word that John McCain is unstable. The subtext, also suggested in this whispering campaign, is that he returned from 5 1/2 years as a POW in North Vietnam with a loose screw. And it is bruited about that he shouldn't be entrusted with nuclear weapons.”
Bush Supporters Questioned McCain’s Sanity.
“Some of George W. Bush's supporters have questioned Republican presidential candidate John McCain's fitness for the White House,
BUSH/MCCAIN----WHAT---SMEAR CAMPAIGN
SMEAR CAMPAIGN ATTACK YOUR SKIN COLOR, YOUR FAMILY, IF YOU WEAR A FLAG PIN, CAN, AND MORE!
THE NEWS REPORTS:
Bush Campaign Used Code Words to Question McCain’s Temper.
suggesting that his five years as a prisoner of war in North Vietnam drove him insane at the time.”
WHY FLIP-FLOP
BUSH/MCCAIN
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WILL MCCAIN USE THE SAME BUSH SMEARS TO ATTACK OTHERS?
HAVE JOHN MCCAIN USED THE WORD ANTI- AMERICAN?
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Chicago Guy
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JAM wrote: <quoted text>
Bullying or bad behavior should not be tolerated for any reason. If children are acting this way they should be dealt with on the spot and their parents should be put on notice that their bad behavior will not be tolerated. The problem is that many parents do not discipline their children and the schools don't either. It is very hard to actually expel a student from school. I agree with this, but I think devons makes a great point. What happens when the bullying is stopped, and the other kids in class say "he was hitting him because he has two daddies. Is that normal?" NO ONE is expecting the teacher to discuss sexuality at all-- the preferred response would simply be "there are all sorts of families, and Timmy's may be different from yours, but that doesn't mean you should pick on him, and it doesn't mean he's less normal than you. We're all the same, and need to treat each other with respect." This is tolerance, in a nutshell-- its NOT the promotion or endorsement of any behavior.
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http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_9773612 SO, WHAT'S NEXT? ECONOMY WAR JOBS HOUSING Middle class Americans know McCain is unsure on social issues. VOTE
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Proud to be a Homophobe wrote: <quoted text>I think that the family has the right to do what they will regarding their loved one.
Do I think it's NICE? Nope. Not a single bit. Because they were lovers? Nope. Just because it isn't nice to deny a dying person their last wishes, if the wishes were made known to the family. The surviving lover means diddly in that situation because it's about the dying, not the living. Yes, but you said earlier that gays could "legally" give themselves all the rights of straight people, so gay marriage was unneeded. So they could have a home together, have rights of survivorship, will each other their possessions and estates, and publicly be a couple for 20+ years, but still you're okay with the family having the right to ban the partner?? Really? Do you think your in-laws should have the right to ban you from the hospital when your husband passes? If not, your comment about 'already equal' doesn't really hold up. BTW I disagree completely about the last moments of a loved one. I've seen it up close a few times, and each time the dying person seemed calm and smiling, and I'm convinced they were shaking off the pain of this world and moving on to the next. Its those that stay with the body--those that spent a life with the deceased-- who need comfort and closure. in my experience, its really much more about the living-- if you are a person of faith, then you'll agree that the dying one has the easy/fun/exciting job...
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Editorial: How McCain, Obama differ on gay marriage proposition
Mercury News Editorial
Article Launched: 07/03/2008 01:31:47 AM PDT
John McCain's support for the initiative to ban gay marriage in California - Proposition 8 - was predictable, given his conservative base of support. But Barrack Obama's opposition, announced this week, was not a given. Nor is it a flip-flop on principle, as his opposition claims.
Obama and McCain both have said they believe marriage should be between a man and woman. They part company on the impulse to legislate their personal belief in a way that removes rights now granted to Californians in the state constitution.
Make no mistake. This is a civil rights issue. Under law, only marriage confers certain legal rights of inheritance, medical decision-making and child custody.
The distinction Obama makes between personal belief and what should or should not be law is in keeping with American political tradition. Many Republicans and Democrats over the years have personally opposed abortion, for example, but would not take away a woman's right to make such a personal decision.
Granted, this nuance of thought and judgment makes for an easy target for Swift Boat crews revving up their political engines.
It also makes for a better president.
MCCAIN/BUSH NEED TO KNOW MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS ECONOMY DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR. SHOULD THE BIG OIL PAY MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA? SHOULD IRAQ PAY MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA? HOW MUCH DO MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS PAY EACH DAY FOR THIS WAR? MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR.
MCCAIN/BUSH
WHY DO MCCAIN CALL AMERICANS- ANTI-AMERICAN? IF SO, WHAT A SMEAR.
ENOUGH---NEXT TOPIC:
ECONOMY
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Obama For Dog Catcher
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Judged:
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WE WISH TO GO ON RECORD AND STATE THAT WE SUPPORT THE TRUE PATRIOT WHO BELIEVES AS WE DO ABOUT AMERICA, THE HONORABLE BARACK OBAMA. He is our lord and savior, and he shall deliver the world from sin. And no matter how many times he deceives the public or flip-flops on issues, we will not only support him, but we will make any arguments, no matter how untrue or illogical, to defend him, FOR HE IS “THE OBAMA.” Signed, Louis “racist and Jew hater” Farrakhan -- http://tinyurl.com/5ljrag The Nation of Islam – http://tinyurl.com/6jhk22 Fidel Castro -- http://tinyurl.com/3hvh7d Raul Castro -- http://tinyurl.com/5f2l2l Hamas -- http://tinyurl.com/3tqj9a Hezbollah -- http://tinyurl.com/676uuj British MP George “I never met a terrorist I didn’t like” Galloway -- http://tinyurl.com/5j9tw6 Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- http://tinyurl.com/5f4x73 Communist Party USA -- http://tinyurl.com/5ntyog The “We’re a black hate group and proud of it” New Black Panther Party -- http://tinyurl.com/6yacfm Rev.“GD America” Wright -- http://tinyurl.com/26986g William "the bomb" Ayers (formal endorsement to come)-- http://tinyurl.com/3vqpwb Raila “the butcher” Odinga -- http://tinyurl.com/6x2zv9 Libyan Leader Mu'ammar Al-Qadhafi -- http://tinyurl.com/5bt6uh Marxist Nicaraguan Leader Daniel Ortega -- http://tinyurl.com/2rrogr Al “racial ambulance chaser” Sharpton -- http://tinyurl.com/244ddb Tony “the indicted one” Rezko – http://tinyurl.com/5osp79 Father “if only I could be a black racist” Pfleger – http://tinyurl.com/5vlgp2 Oprah “I used to go to Obama’s church but got out just in time” Winfrey -- http://tinyurl.com/66n6xp Rev.“I hate gays” Meeks -- http://tinyurl.com/5fpz3x Donnie “Anti-Gay” McClurkin -- http://tinyurl.com/yrj63p Korean Tyrant Kim Jong-Il -- http://tinyurl.com/6pdxtp AND VARIOUS OTHER RACISTS, BIGOTS, ANTI-SEMITES, TERRORISTS, DICTATORS AND INDICTED INDIVIDUALS.
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POLITE NEXT ISSUE wrote: NEXT ISSUE:
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READ THIS AND GO TO THE NEXT ISSUE:
Editorial: How McCain, Obama differ on gay marriage proposition
Mercury News Editorial
Article Launched: 07/03/2008 01:31:47 AM PDT
John McCain's support for the initiative to ban gay marriage in California - Proposition 8 - was predictable, given his conservative base of support. But Barrack Obama's opposition, announced this week, was not a given. Nor is it a flip-flop on principle, as his opposition claims.
Obama and McCain both have said they believe marriage should be between a man and woman. They part company on the impulse to legislate their personal belief in a way that removes rights now granted to Californians in the state constitution.
Make no mistake. This is a civil rights issue. Under law, only marriage confers certain legal rights of inheritance, medical decision-making and child custody.
The distinction Obama makes between personal belief and what should or should not be law is in keeping with American political tradition. Many Republicans and Democrats over the years have personally opposed abortion, for example, but would not take away a woman's right to make such a personal decision.
Granted, this nuance of thought and judgment makes for an easy target for Swift Boat crews revving up their political engines.
It also makes for a better president.
MCCAIN/BUSH NEED TO KNOW MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS ECONOMY DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR. SHOULD THE BIG OIL PAY MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA? SHOULD IRAQ PAY MIDDLE CLASS AMERICA? HOW MUCH DO MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS PAY EACH DAY FOR THIS WAR? MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS DIE BECAUSE OF THIS WAR.
MCCAIN/BUSH
WHY DO MCCAIN CALL AMERICANS- ANTI-AMERICAN? IF SO, WHAT A SMEAR.
ENOUGH---NEXT TOPIC:
ECONOMY How about posting some proof that Obama can do a better job. Have you looked at his voting record? He say's he is for change but that is about it. If he was a White man with the exact same credentials he would have been laughed out of town. And the Democrats in general, what have they done? Not a damn thing. I am not a McCain fan by any means -- fact is both candidates suck and the American people have been royally screwed.
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While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas rancher,
whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor
struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got
around to Obama and his bid to be our President.
The old rancher said,'Well, ya know, Obama is a post turtle'. Not
being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'post
turtle' was. The old rancher said,'When you're driving down a
country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced
on top, that's a 'post turtle'.
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he
continued to explain.'You know he didn't get up there by himself,
he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he is up
there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there.
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Chicago Guy
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JAM wrote: While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas rancher,
whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor
struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got
around to Obama and his bid to be our President.
The old rancher said,'Well, ya know, Obama is a post turtle'. Not
being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a 'post
turtle' was. The old rancher said,'When you're driving down a
country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced
on top, that's a 'post turtle'.
The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he
continued to explain.'You know he didn't get up there by himself,
he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he is up
there, and you just wonder what kind of a dumb ass put him up there. This little anecdote is SPAMMED almost as much. Its very compelling, except for one LITTLE problem: Obama got himself the nomnination by beating the strongest political machine in the country, he continues to pursue the presidency with dogged determination, and his articulated and detailed positions on the issues are far more popular with most Americans than McCain's. Saying Obama just "happened" to get where he is, or that he "doesn't know" what to do next, is stupid on its face. I doubt McCain's camp would agree with you...
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Chicago Guy wrote: <quoted text>
This little anecdote is SPAMMED almost as much.
Its very compelling, except for one LITTLE problem: Obama got himself the nomnination by beating the strongest political machine in the country, he continues to pursue the presidency with dogged determination, and his articulated and detailed positions on the issues are far more popular with most Americans than McCain's.
Saying Obama just "happened" to get where he is, or that he "doesn't know" what to do next, is stupid on its face. I doubt McCain's camp would agree with you... The press barely questioned the guy. They did not question his voting record (what little there is of it). If Obama had been White the Blacks and the far left lib's would have voted for Hillary. There is also the mess with Michigan and Florida, which the democrats did to themselves. McCain and Obama are both for aiding and abetting illegal immigration and that is one thing that most Americans want to stop. If Obama should win he will be another Jimmy Carter albeit one that the press (the Kingmaker's) will like better.
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“Proud To Be An American”
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Obama & Obama are nothing more than a couple of two-bit sht-house lawyers representing their uppity euro-socialist contributors. It's like lawyers representing Jeffery Dalmer but instead of representing a demented cannibal the Obamas are representing those who will cannibalize The United States Of America.
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JAM wrote: <quoted text>
The press barely questioned the guy. They did not question his voting record (what little there is of it). If Obama had been White the Blacks and the far left lib's would have voted for Hillary. There is also the mess with Michigan and Florida, which the democrats did to themselves. McCain and Obama are both for aiding and abetting illegal immigration and that is one thing that most Americans want to stop. If Obama should win he will be another Jimmy Carter albeit one that the press (the Kingmaker's) will like better. Well, I disagree with much of you assesment here, but none of it disproves my point: namely, that Obama knows exactly what he's doing. Like him or hate him, surely you'll concede that ANYONE who gains their parties nomination is at the very least smart and self-directed. On that basis alone, not even considering his qualifications, the turtle story is not applicable to Obama. That was my point.
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JohnInLa wrote: Obama & Obama are nothing more than a couple of two-bit sht-house lawyers representing their uppity euro-socialist contributors.
It's like lawyers representing Jeffery Dalmer but instead of representing a demented cannibal the Obamas are representing those who will cannibalize The United States Of America. Well, this bullshit comment is completely idiotic, but at least its original! Kudos for that.... I guess....
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Chicago Guy wrote: <quoted text>
Well, I disagree with much of you assesment here, but none of it disproves my point: namely, that Obama knows exactly what he's doing. Like him or hate him, surely you'll concede that ANYONE who gains their parties nomination is at the very least smart and self-directed.
On that basis alone, not even considering his qualifications, the turtle story is not applicable to Obama. That was my point. You are entitled you your opinion -- appreciate no name calling. I myself know many lib's and moderates and not one of them likes Obama. I consider myself an independent and am not sure who I will vote for although it certainly will not be for Obama.
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Obama For Dog Catcher wrote: WE WISH TO GO ON RECORD AND STATE THAT WE SUPPORT THE TRUE PATRIOT WHO BELIEVES AS WE DO ABOUT AMERICA, THE HONORABLE BARACK OBAMA. He is our lord and savior, and he shall deliver the world from sin. And no matter how many times he deceives the public or flip-flops on issues, we will not only support him, but we will make any arguments, no matter how untrue or illogical, to defend him, FOR HE IS “THE OBAMA.” Signed, Louis “racist and Jew hater” Farrakhan -- http://tinyurl.com/5ljrag The Nation of Islam – http://tinyurl.com/6jhk22 Fidel Castro -- http://tinyurl.com/3hvh7d Raul Castro -- http://tinyurl.com/5f2l2l Hamas -- http://tinyurl.com/3tqj9a Hezbollah -- http://tinyurl.com/676uuj British MP George “I never met a terrorist I didn’t like” Galloway -- http://tinyurl.com/5j9tw6 Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad -- http://tinyurl.com/5f4x73 Communist Party USA -- http://tinyurl.com/5ntyog The “We’re a black hate group and proud of it” New Black Panther Party -- http://tinyurl.com/6yacfm Rev.“GD America” Wright -- http://tinyurl.com/26986g William "the bomb" Ayers (formal endorsement to come)-- http://tinyurl.com/3vqpwb Raila “the butcher” Odinga -- http://tinyurl.com/6x2zv9 Libyan Leader Mu'ammar Al-Qadhafi -- http://tinyurl.com/5bt6uh Marxist Nicaraguan Leader Daniel Ortega -- http://tinyurl.com/2rrogr Al “racial ambulance chaser” Sharpton -- http://tinyurl.com/244ddb Tony “the indicted one” Rezko – http://tinyurl.com/5osp79 Father “if only I could be a black racist” Pfleger – http://tinyurl.com/5vlgp2 Oprah “I used to go to Obama’s church but got out just in time” Winfrey -- http://tinyurl.com/66n6xp Rev.“I hate gays” Meeks -- http://tinyurl.com/5fpz3x Donnie “Anti-Gay” McClurkin -- http://tinyurl.com/yrj63p Korean Tyrant Kim Jong-Il -- http://tinyurl.com/6pdxtp AND VARIOUS OTHER RACISTS, BIGOTS, ANTI-SEMITES, TERRORISTS, DICTATORS AND INDICTED INDIVIDUALS. They are all patriots, just like nObama and Michele are, with allegiance to Africa and Isalm, but not America. Imagine if nObama’s handlers would just let him and Michele, speak to the American people, say what is on their mind (honestly ), share their visions of America and the world, answer a few questions from the public. It would be bad for nObama, but good for America. KEEP THE CHANGE
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Chicago Guy wrote: <quoted text>
Well, this bullshit comment is completely idiotic, but at least its original!
Kudos for that.... I guess.... Johnla's comment is exactly right on! Obama & Obama are nothing more than a couple of two-bit sht-house lawyers representing their uppity euro-socialist contributors. It's like lawyers representing Jeffery Dalmer but instead of representing a demented cannibal the Obamas are representing those who will cannibalize The United States Of America.
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YOU APPEAR TO HAVE A HISTORY OF SMEAR ATTACKS! YES, INDEED, LET'S TAKE A MOMENT TO GET TO KNOW THE HISTORY A OF AN IDEOLOGY BEHIND THOSE LIKE JOHN: LA. SMEAR ATTACK #1: WILL YOU DEFEND THE SOVIET REPUBLIC AGAINST ANY DANGERS AND ATTACKS? WILL YOU VOTE IN RUSSIA? WHY ARE YOU IN AMERICA WITH A STRONG PLEDGE FOR RUSSIA? http://www.youtube.com/watch... http://www.youtube.com/watch... JohnInLa wrote: Obama & Obama are nothing more than a couple of two-bit sht-house lawyers representing their uppity euro-socialist contributors.
It's like lawyers representing Jeffery Dalmer but instead of representing a demented cannibal the Obamas are representing those who will cannibalize The United States Of America.
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JAM wrote: <quoted text>
You are entitled you your opinion -- appreciate no name calling. I myself know many lib's and moderates and not one of them likes Obama. I consider myself an independent and am not sure who I will vote for although it certainly will not be for Obama. Well, I appreciate the civility of your tone, too. Thanks. I certainly have been known to name-call (as this thread proves!) but I'm happy to be respectful to those who deserve respect. Of all the libs and moderates you know, any idea why they won't consider Obama? See, I believe there are valid reasons to vote against him, if you disagree with his policies, or question his experience. But I really have no patience for the muslim/radical/racist line of attack, because I think it lacks all credibility, and is clearly a wilfull distortion. Would you agree with that?
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