Veterans group will aid McCain

Republican John McCain , who has made support for President Bush 's troop buildup in Iraq the centerpiece of his presidential campaign, is getting help from a veterans group that's launching a TV ad campaign ...

[Our Turn]

Only old white fools will vote MCain Bush 3! The peoples will turnout on election day like never before number for BArack an crush the repubicans like a bug! Change is comming Amerca!!

YES WE CAN! OBAMA o8!!

[bernie]

Iraq is not the centerpiece of his campaign. Another media lie for Obama. Speaking of which how many times did Obama change his position yesterday?

[Chesapeake Spirit]

Our Turn wrote:

Only old white fools will vote MCain Bush 3! The peoples will turnout on election day like never before number for BArack an crush the repubicans like a bug! Change is comming Amerca!!
YES WE CAN! OBAMA o8!!

So, you not only bring race into your post, but you also slam US Veterans. Plus your writing skills are very poor at best. Typical Obama supporter - unpatriotic and uneducated.

[Voltaire]

CHANGE,CHANGE,CHANGE,CHANGE,CH ANGE,CHANGE,
Here are a few questions for Osama Obama
What exactly is he going to CHANGE in the USA?
How can we trust someone with TWO (2) muslim fathers?
How can we trust someone who "belongs" to a racist church?
What exactly will he do to combat the islamic threat to the USA and to other countries?
What kind of tax structure does he propose for us?
How will he reform social security?
What does he propose for health care and how do we pay?
What will he do to upgrade and reform our military?
What does he propose for homosexual marriage?
What does he propose for gun control?
What will he do to control illegal immigration, to control the border, to deal with the millions of illegal immigrants in the USA?
What is he doing about the energy problem?
What is his position on drilling for oil in the USA and offshore?
plus one hundred more questions concerning the future of the USA.

[Disgusted]

Whoopee do!!!!!

Now why don't these Veterans ask McCain what he is going to do about securing, protecting, defend the USA BORDERS from INVADERS crossing our Borders by the MILLIONS yearly then joining the 20 plus Millions INVADERS already in the USA whom McCain is going to give ANMESTY if ELECTED------marching in the USA Streets flying their Flags over the USA Flag, demanding THEIR LANGUAGE BE SPOKEN.

Seems these Veterans Org LEADERS--get highly up-set if a nutty American Citizen Hippy burns an American Flag--but ACCEPT WITHOUT MUCH OUTCRY if Invaders on the USA fly their flag over the American Flag and burn it.

WONDER WHY--this is so?

Seem all Mccain has done is spend the Fourth of July in Mexico.

[Veteran]

Hooray! Obama is a gloomy defeatist. He opposed the surge which is working and will allow the USA to leave with a stable democracy behind and an ally. Obama has set a deadline for defeat and retreat. Obama knows almost nothing about the military. McCain is one of us. Almost all of my fellow veterans support McCain despite what the media suggests.

[Veteran]

Our Turn wrote:

Only old white fools will vote MCain Bush 3! The peoples will turnout on election day like never before number for BArack an crush the repubicans like a bug! Change is comming Amerca!!
YES WE CAN! OBAMA o8!!

You sir appear to be an anti-white bigot. Perhaps you have been listening to too many of Reverand Wright's sermons.

[Veteran]

Disgusted wrote:

Whoopee do!!!!!
Now why don't these Veterans ask McCain what he is going to do about securing, protecting, defend the USA BORDERS from INVADERS crossing our Borders by the MILLIONS yearly then joining the 20 plus Millions INVADERS already in the USA whom McCain is going to give ANMESTY if ELECTED------marching in the USA Streets flying their Flags over the USA Flag, demanding THEIR LANGUAGE BE SPOKEN.
Seems these Veterans Org LEADERS--get highly up-set if a nutty American Citizen Hippy burns an American Flag--but ACCEPT WITHOUT MUCH OUTCRY if Invaders on the USA fly their flag over the American Flag and burn it.
WONDER WHY--this is so?
Seem all Mccain has done is spend the Fourth of July in Mexico.

Obama is for giving driver's licences to illegals. See http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi... or hear him say this on You Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch...

This will encourage more illegals to come to the USA and your taxes will go up to pay for their schools etc. Obama also want you to pay for illegals health care. He includes them in his health plan.

WAKE UP AMERICA! THIS GUY IS BAD NEWS!

[Disgusted]

Veteran wrote:

Hooray! Obama is a gloomy defeatist. He opposed the surge which is working and will allow the USA to leave with a stable democracy behind and an ally. Obama has set a deadline for defeat and retreat. Obama knows almost nothing about the military. McCain is one of us. Almost all of my fellow veterans support McCain despite what the media suggests.

This Veteran does not suppoert McCain or Obama and you do not have a cue as which which one MOST Veterans supports or if they support neither nor does anyone else---SO DO NOT START SOME STUPID BS about who MOST VETERANS support.

The Surge Working---that your opinion.

[Disgusted]

Veteran wrote:

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Obama is for giving driver's licences to illegals. See http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi... or hear him say this on You Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch...
This will encourage more illegals to come to the USA and your taxes will go up to pay for their schools etc. Obama also want you to pay for illegals health care. He includes them in his health plan.
WAKE UP AMERICA! THIS GUY IS BAD NEWS!

Obama and McCain are BAD NEWS neither will defend, protect, secure our Borders from the MILLIONS of Invaders crossing yearly to join the 20 plus MILLIONS all ready in the USA ---MARCHING in the USA Cities flying their Flags demanding their language be spoken.

Obama and McCain answer to the Invaders IS ANMESTY and an OPEN BORDER POLICY for MILLIONS more each year to walk across PLUS non enforcement of LAWS AGAINST Employers hiring them.

Neither Obama nor McCain have any Plans or intentions of doing anything about MILLIONS OF People from other countries comming to the USA YEARLY on Visas and NEVER LEAVING WHEN THE VISA EXPIRE.

While our country THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is ACTUALLY BEING INVADED by MILLIONS of INVADERS YEARLY to join the 20 MILLIONS already here----our Military in other Countries defending their Borders, building their countries, costing the American Tax Payer BILLIONS OF DOLLARS and the lives of some of their family members.

And John McCain thinks the Surge in Iraq is working---HAL A LUER.

If the POWERS TO BE wanted that BS with Iraq over ---they would have done it long ago within months of Invading---and a p#ss ant would not be acting up.

But like Vietnam they is no intention of winning --just dragging it out --to use up Military Supplies so more contracts for Equipment can be made.

Some World War 11 Commanders with World War 11 Tanks, Jeeps and etc could have that place peaceful occupied within just a few months because that would be what they were ordered to do and wanted to do.

[Veteran]

Disgusted wrote:

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This Veteran does not suppoert McCain or Obama and you do not have a cue as which which one MOST Veterans supports or if they support neither nor does anyone else---SO DO NOT START SOME STUPID BS about who MOST VETERANS support.
The Surge Working---that your opinion.

How sad that as a liberal you are so invested in the defeat of your own country. I know many other liberals like you that think this way but America is bigger and greater than this. Surge working is not just my opinion. It is.
Do a Google search. Even the leftist NY Times agrees with this.

[Manuel]

The surge better be working, at $2 Billion a day we can't afford to surge for very long no matter who's the president.

Only in America can the son of an admiral become an officer, cheat on his spouse, divorce her, marry an heiress, get a job in the family business, and run as a conservative candidate for president. only in America, or perhaps a hundred other faux democracies/bananna republics (hey wasnt he born in panama??)

[Disgusted]

Veteran wrote:

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How sad that as a liberal you are so invested in the defeat of your own country. I know many other liberals like you that think this way but America is bigger and greater than this. Surge working is not just my opinion. It is.
Do a Google search. Even the leftist NY Times agrees with this.

I will not get into a name calling contest with you-- no matter of the stupid, dumb, idiotic statement you made ---

"How sad that as a liberal you are so invested in the defeat of your own country"

Frankly I just feel sorry for you!!

[Truth]

Disgusted wrote:

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I will not get into a name calling contest with you-- no matter of the stupid, dumb, idiotic statement you made ---
"How sad that as a liberal you are so invested in the defeat of your own country"
Frankly I just feel sorry for you!!

You cannot stand the truth. He really nailed you!

[Disgusted]

Truth wrote:

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You cannot stand the truth. He really nailed you!

I will stand by my Posts #10 and #13.

When American Soldiers stop being wounded, dying in Iraq get back to me-- on just what the Surge has done and how long any effects lasted----seems the numbers of American Soldiers being wounded, dying has not slowed and nothing much changed---more Billion being spent, more wounded, dead American Soldiers.

When the Surge started it was my stated belief that----sure the reports coming in and released would be it Worked/Working the months leading up to the Election. That was a given no matter what happened!!!!

In Dec when Congress goes on Christmas Vacation let us see what the reports are then. Hopefully good, great and wonderful and TRUTHFUL, CORRECT--but more likely more of the same or lots worst.

When people make dumb ass statement like--

"How sad that as a liberal you are so invested in the defeat of your own country"----

because they disagree with someone---

I just feel sorry for them more so someone that I take to be a Young Veteran who has the courage, guts to fight for his/her convictions, beliefs and the RIGHT of all of us to EXPRESS OUR OPINION as we see it.

That is no need for me to call him/her names or question HIS love for his country because he did about me--serves no purpose----WE SIMPLY DISAGREE.

In my case I get cruss out, catch flax from BOTH Liberals and Conservatives depending on which subject is being discuss, debated which one of the two are doing the crussing and/or throwing the Flax.

If the Presidential Election was held today this Veteran--would vote for Bob Barr NOT MCain or Obama.

[Truth]

Disgusted wrote:

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I will stand by my Posts #10 and #13.
When American Soldiers stop being wounded, dying in Iraq get back to me-- on just what the Surge has done and how long any effects lasted----seems the numbers of American Soldiers being wounded, dying has not slowed and nothing much changed---more Billion being spent, more wounded, dead American Soldiers.
When the Surge started it was my stated belief that----sure the reports coming in and released would be it Worked/Working the months leading up to the Election. That was a given no matter what happened!!!!
In Dec when Congress goes on Christmas Vacation let us see what the reports are then. Hopefully good, great and wonderful and TRUTHFUL, CORRECT--but more likely more of the same or lots worst.
When people make dumb ass statement like--
"How sad that as a liberal you are so invested in the defeat of your own country"----
because they disagree with someone---
I just feel sorry for them more so someone that I take to be a Young Veteran who has the courage, guts to fight for his/her convictions, beliefs and the RIGHT of all of us to EXPRESS OUR OPINION as we see it.
That is no need for me to call him/her names or question HIS love for his country because he did about me--serves no purpose----WE SIMPLY DISAGREE.
In my case I get cruss out, catch flax from BOTH Liberals and Conservatives depending on which subject is being discuss, debated which one of the two are doing the crussing and/or throwing the Flax.
If the Presidential Election was held today this Veteran--would vote for Bob Barr NOT MCain or Obama.

Many liberals ARE and have invested in the defeat of this country in Iraq. This stems from their hatred of the current President and their thirst for more political power. Since the tide has turned they are upset are in denial. Maybe you are not a liberal but you sure you sound like a liberal on this point. You may not like this but it is an accurate statement. It is not name calling.

[Our Turn]

Veteran wrote:

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You sir appear to be an anti-white bigot. Perhaps you have been listening to too many of Reverand Wright's sermons.

Rev. Right is a grate amercan! you fools think you knows it all but come noveber you go down hard! HaHaHa

YES WE CAn!! Obama o8!

[dave]

Veteran wrote:

Hooray! Obama is a gloomy defeatist. He opposed the surge which is working and will allow the USA to leave with a stable democracy behind and an ally. Obama has set a deadline for defeat and retreat. Obama knows almost nothing about the military. McCain is one of us. Almost all of my fellow veterans support McCain despite what the media suggests.

Here is McCain's recent voting record regarding veteran issues.

05/22/2008 GI Bill and Other Domestic Provisions - DID NOT SHOW (but took credit along with Bush when it finally passed, what a crock!)

01/22/2008 Defense Authorizations Bill - DID NOT SHOW

10/01/2007 National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008 - DID NOT SHOW

02/02/2006 Tax Rate Extension Amendment - VOTED NO

11/17/2005 Additional Funding For Veterans Amendment - VOTED NO

10/05/2005 Health Care for Veterans Amendment - VOTED NO

John McCain has a history of NOT siding with veterans and his voting record show's it.
There is a BIG difference in being a vet and voting for veteran issues. Don't confuse the two.

[Disgusted]

Truth wrote:

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Many liberals ARE and have invested in the defeat of this country in Iraq. This stems from their hatred of the current President and their thirst for more political power. Since the tide has turned they are upset are in denial. Maybe you are not a liberal but you sure you sound like a liberal on this point. You may not like this but it is an accurate statement. It is not name calling.

How sad that as a CONSERATIVE or WHATEVER you are so invested in the defeat of your own country

(Your own standard no name calling)

by not speaking out and holding accountable the President, Congress for spending TRILLIONS of Dollar, WOUNDED, DEAD Soldiers in Iraq for years with ever changing OBJECTIVES while the USA is being INVADED by MILLIONS of INVADERS from around the world across the USA BORDERS to join the 20 plus INVADERS already in the USA marching in the USA Cities' Streets flying their countries Flags demanding their language be spoken.

For six and a half years when the Republicans controlled the Federal Government with Bush as President, Republican Controlled USA Senate & USA House of Rep Plus the USA Supreme Court this INVADISION snowballed and Bush REFUSED to take any Action, nor ENFORCE the LAWS pertaining to ILLEGAL ALIENS such as Employment of Illegal Aliens.

If the USA President(s)had ENFORCED the USA Laws and CONGRESS had insured they were enforced by bring charges and removing the president if necessary if they were not---9/11 would not happen ---done by EXPIRED VISAS HOLDERS---who were given visas let loose in the USA with no means of knowing their whereabouts, actions PLUS LIKE MANY OTHER MILLIONS-----JUST DECEIDED TO STAY WHEN THEIR VISAS EXPIRED---to do as they wish--these just happen to WISH-DID-- fly plane into towers, etc.

Post # 10 AND # 13 reflects my opinion and stand-by them---could easy ask you why you as a CONSERVATIVE or WHATEVER are so INVESTED in the DEFEAT of your country the USA if you happen to disagree.

Makes as much sense as--"How sad that as a LIBERAL you are so invested in the defeat of your own country” did when the person disagreed with me and you supported the question.

But WHATEVER---thanks for descents responds---but guess have nothing else to say---WE SIMPLY DISAGREE ABOUT--some things.

PS

I in no way mean to question your love for your country and wanting the best for it nor the other Poster!!!!

In time our children, grand children and further generations will live with the results of what has occur in the Past & Present more than us---hope we do not let them down and pass on a much better, stronger, safe UNITED STATES OF AMERICA with our RIGHTS under our USA Constitutions UN-QUESTIONABLE.

I think you, the other Poster want that, I want that---WE SIMPLY DISAGREE on certain things occurring.