Putin Says Russia is 'Becoming Stronger'

[SkobelevMihail]

IRONic MAN wrote:

<quoted text>Try telling that to Slavs and Arabs!

LOL

Most religious nation among "developed" is USA nation.

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Tymoshenko: Ukraine Stands in Solidarity with Georgia

Last update: 2:46 p.m. EDT Aug. 13, 2008

KYIV, Ukraine, Aug 13, 2008 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/-- Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko responded again to the Georgian crisis on Wednesday, stating, "We stand in solidarity with the democratically-elected leadership of Georgia.

Georgia's sovereignty and territorial integrity must be respected." Earlier on Tuesday, Tymoshenko sent Vice Prime Minister Hryhoriy Nemyria as a Special Envoy to Tbilisi.

"Actions speak louder than words," said Nemyria from Tbilisi, "so it is important to be on the ground, lending our first-hand support to the government of Georgia.

This crisis has clear implications for regional security, and of course, for Ukraine."

Nemyria, responsible for European and International Integration, explained, "This crisis makes crystal clear that the security vacuums that have existed in the post-Soviet space remain dangerous.

Because it is the largest country in the region after Russia, and because it shares such a long border with the European Union, Ukraine remains at risk in this type of vacuum."

While in Georgia, Nemyria was scheduled to meet with Georgian officials, as well as other international envoys that had arrived in Tbilisi.

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/tymoshe...

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[14.08.2008 11:37]
Baloha: Ukraine not to stand aside processes in the Southern Caucasus

The developments in Georgia need a clear and single response of all power branches of Ukraine, Ukrainian President’s Chief of staff Victor Baloha claims.

He said this in his statement published by “Den” daily (of August 14,#144).

“The tragic developments in Georgia and the blatant military offensive, which killed thousands of people and, contrary to the international law, called in question the territorial integrity of Georgia, send an extremely dangerous challenge to the international community, and, without any doubt, will need a clear centralized response of the Ukrainian state power, as well as an accorded and solidary position of Ukraine’s leading political forces.

The military operations near the Ukrainian borders, a mass inflow of refugees fleeing from Georgia, the blockade and damage of the regional economical and transport infrastructure in the Georgian territory, together with a well-coordinated informational campaign, within frames of which people, far from hotheads, make attempts to discredit the stance of our country, indicate the extremely dangerous character of the situation.

The threats, deriving from this situation, are directly connected with Ukraine.

“There is no place for emotions. At the same time, there is no place for thoughtless watching over any anti-state activity or inactivity, statements and steps that may escalate tension inside our country. Thus, the response of the state will be immediate and unambiguous”, V.Baloha said.

“Ukraine welcomed and positively assessed the cease-fire in Georgia. We support, and, as President of Ukraine Victor Yushchenko stressed, we have intent to as actively as possible assist the implementation of the international plan of peaceful regulation, which must properly take into account the interests of all sides involved, and must become a basis for a normal development of the situation in favor of suffered people and the territorial integrity of Georgia.

“With his visit to Georgia, the Ukrainian Head of State confirmed the fact that Ukraine will not stand aside processes in the Southern Caucasus, but will actively and constructively work to guarantee peace ad democracy in the region, with providing all services to settle the situation and defend the integrity and sovereignty of Georgia”, V.Baloha said.

Over the last decade, Ukraine has advanced in the sphere of the Euro-Atlantic integration. This process is not aimed against any third party, but pursues only one goal – to join an efficient collective security system in Europe, which is the only that can really guarantee the independence, sovereignty and inviolability of all its democratic member countries, V.Baloha stressed.

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[IRONic MAN]

SkobelevMihail wrote:

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LOL
Most religious nation among "developed" is USA nation.

"sure"!

[Observer]

Stefanya wrote:

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It's their patriotism, so what's it to you. Do you vote in Russia's elections? Do you live in Russia. I'm sure Russians don't care who your leader is or question your patriotism.

The forum idiot grunts again. Russian "patriotism" is simply a disguise for fascism and agression. God help the world if all nations were as "patriotic" as the Russians. I mean...weren't Hitler and Stalin "patriots" too? You are such a completely stupid and ignorant idiot.

[uther pendragon]

What a great point. American patriotism is simply a disguise for fascism and aggression. God help the world if all nations were "patriotic" as the Americans. I mean...weren't Andrew Jackson and Bill Clinton "patriots" too?
In a nation built on the twin pillars of ethnic cleansing of the native americans and the african slave trade (claiming to stand for liberty and justice) patriotism comes rather easy.

[Observer]

Stefanya wrote:

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NOt if by good international relations you mean that the drugs and prostitution can be sold to other countries;
not if it means not securing Russia's borders;
not if it means catering to every whim of the hate-filled and vengeful former republics and satellite countries at the expense of the Russian nations;
not if it means toadying to said nations;
not if it means letting other nations control Russia;
not if it means letting western robber barons in;
not if it means tolerting NATO missiles on its borders;
not if it means; being forced to running their oil and gas through pipe-lines of countries who as independents do nothing but make remarks making Russia the boogeyman and then expecting to be treated with favored nation status.
Those countries are no longer a part of the Soviet Union and they no longer have any say in Russian affairs.
You can't have good relations with countries who act like a collective enemy, as they do not want to be friends but to b*tch and complain.

You mean the world is against Russia? Now how could that possibly be? Moron.

[Stefanya]

uther pendragon wrote:

What a great point. American patriotism is simply a disguise for fascism and aggression. God help the world if all nations were "patriotic" as the Americans. I mean...weren't Andrew Jackson and Bill Clinton "patriots" too?
In a nation built on the twin pillars of ethnic cleansing of the native americans and the african slave trade (claiming to stand for liberty and justice) patriotism comes rather easy.

Well stated.

[Stefanya]

In spite of all of the ignorant rhetoric, Russia is doing what is necessary to protect the nation's borders and its citizens. Good for Russia.

[IRONic MAN]

Stefanya wrote:

In spite of all of the ignorant rhetoric, Russia is doing what is necessary to protect the nation's borders and its citizens. Good for Russia.

Georgia was doing on its own territory nothing more than Russia did in Chechnya!

[Serbio]

IRONic MAN wrote:

<quoted text>Georgia was doing on its own territory nothing more than Russia did in Chechnya!

And the US in Afganistan, Iraq, Sudan, El Salvador, Serbia and Vietnam!

[Observer]

uther pendragon wrote:

What a great point. American patriotism is simply a disguise for fascism and aggression. God help the world if all nations were "patriotic" as the Americans. I mean...weren't Andrew Jackson and Bill Clinton "patriots" too?
In a nation built on the twin pillars of ethnic cleansing of the native americans and the african slave trade (claiming to stand for liberty and justice) patriotism comes rather easy.

And Russia was built on the corpses of millions of its own citizens and those of other nations as well. Russia's use of ethnic cleansing and genocide totally eclipses whatever happended in the USA with the red indians. Moreover, Russian ethnic cleansing and genocide was carried out continuously throughout the 20th century and now into 21st century. The USA could never match the brutality and barbarism of the Russian nation. Serb

[uther pendragon]

Observer wrote:

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And Russia was built on the corpses of millions of its own citizens and those of other nations as well. Russia's use of ethnic cleansing and genocide totally eclipses whatever happended in the USA with the red indians. Moreover, Russian ethnic cleansing and genocide was carried out continuously throughout the 20th century and now into 21st century. The USA could never match the brutality and barbarism of the Russian nation. Serb

The Russian Empire is gone and so is the Soviet Union. The same Constitution under which native americans were eradicated and african slaves imported is still in effect today.
The USA is the USA.
Comparing the Russian Federation to those previous historic states is like comparing modern Mexico to that of the Aztecs.
It is completely different.

[uther pendragon]

IRONic MAN wrote:

<quoted text>Georgia was doing on its own territory nothing more than Russia did in Chechnya!

Does ALBANic MAN hold this same attitude towards the historic Serbian Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo?

[uther pendragon]

Observer wrote:

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You mean the world is against Russia? Now how could that possibly be? Moron.

That is simply incorrect. The glue uniting the world is still and shall remain anti-Americanism.
We are "the focus of evil in the modern world" after all, an "evil empire".

[Stefanya]

IRONic MAN wrote:

<quoted text>Georgia was doing on its own territory nothing more than Russia did in Chechnya!

I think the South Ossetians and the Abkazians would disagree with you. They broke away from Georgia over 15 years ago and want no part of Georgia even with its colored revolution and it's USA lapdog Sakashvilli in charge there.

[Observer]

uther pendragon wrote:

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The Russian Empire is gone and so is the Soviet Union. The same Constitution under which native americans were eradicated and african slaves imported is still in effect today.
The USA is the USA.
Comparing the Russian Federation to those previous historic states is like comparing modern Mexico to that of the Aztecs.
It is completely different.

You would be hard pressed to find a single American that would agree with that drivel. The Russian "Federation" is a semi-fascist state with no rule of law and run by a group of ex-KGB gangsters who have seized power. There is no possible comparison with Russia in every way. What is more the US is governed according to its Constitution whilst nobody can say the smame for Russia. And you are so dumb you can't see it, but then I suppose being a Serb what could one really expect from you?

[Observer]

uther pendragon wrote:

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That is simply incorrect. The glue uniting the world is still and shall remain anti-Americanism.
We are "the focus of evil in the modern world" after all, an "evil empire".

Ha..ha....ha...ha....ha....oh that was soooooo funny! I take it that there cannot be any schools in Serbia?

[IRONic MAN]

Serbio wrote:

<quoted text>And the US in Afganistan, Iraq, Sudan, El Salvador, Serbia and Vietnam!

Russia invaded Czechoslovakia,Hungary,Afghani stan in the past,you 'people' always manage to forget that!

[IRONic MAN]

uther pendragon wrote:

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Does ALBANic MAN hold this same attitude towards the historic Serbian Bosnia-Herzegovina and Kosovo?

Russia by attacking R. of Georgia de-facto gave recognized Kosova's independence,and when you think dumb Serbs were thinking that Rusians cared about them!