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It's time to declassify Liberty records

The 41st anniversary of the attack on the USS Liberty was June 8. During the attack, jets and torpedo boats of Israel assaulted the American naval vessel in international waters off the Sinai Peninsula in the ...

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History may show that the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was one of the most significant incidents of the 20th century. Israel saw that it could literally get away with murdering American servicemen, yet continue to receive ever-increasing amounts of American tax money (about $7-10 million per day).

However, as Americans learn about this ruthless attack, many are also learning the facts about Israel's history and current actions, and are therefore starting to demand an end of US aid to a nation whose principles are the antithesis of American ones.

For more information on the Liberty attack, go to:
http://ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ussliberty...

Among other things, this article refutes the falsehood propagated by Israel partisans that "many investigations have cleared Israel."
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Jun 19, 2008
 
This is far too intelectual for myself and other Topix posters. We are Toy R Us Kids, rem ?

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Facts wrote:
History may show that the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was one of the most significant incidents of the 20th century...
Oh yea -- FAR more significant than say, World War II or the Cold War.

If your life revolves around hatred of Jews -- I guess it is the most significant event in YOUR life.
Larry Ward

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Jun 19, 2008
 
Time to declassify Liberty Records.

Have you read the numerous documents that have been declassified? A good place to start is with the Navy's Court of Inquiry record which is over 700 pages at
http://www.libertyincident.com/documents.html

You will also find lots of other declassified documents there.

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Jun 19, 2008
 
I wanna know where the hell everyone gets their facts about the amount of money Israel. 10 mil a DAY?

Israel has recieved $60 Billion in aid from us since their creation. Thats roughly 1 bil a year, which means almost 3 mil a day (still a lot of money though)
Smedley

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Jun 19, 2008
 
In the early to mid 80's, I spent a lot of time at the IDF Navy Base in Haiffa. And I don't trust them one bit.
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Jun 19, 2008
 
You have to be careful at times. Of course I want the facts about the loss of American lives. I also want the facts about Soviet spies in the US and Americans who served as their agents during the very same period as the Liberty incident.

Who wants the Liberty material released at this time and what is their motive? It could be to drive a wedge between US and Israel preventing coordinated efforts against Iran and Korea.

Why didn't anyone push for releasing US intelligence about, say, Ayers, the merry unrepentant terrorist and friend of Obama, and his associates? The Dems will never allow such information to be released since Ayers is now a Dem in good standing.

During the Clinton years the NY Times carried a one paragraph notice buried on an inside page. It said that KGB info might be leaked to the press naming US citizens as Soviet agents. It said that the KGB was notoriously unreliable and people should disregard such stories.

Actually, former KGB were blackmailing American sympathizers who were now wealthy and prominent. Apparently, the money was paid and that, as far as we know, was the end of it.

Yes, I want all the info, not part. Name the Soviet agents as well as release the Liberty material.
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Jun 19, 2008
 
see u shoulda left me alone and we wouldnt have that problem anymore
uncle adolph

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Jun 19, 2008
 
it would all be germany.and my ovens would be warm.mustard anyone

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Jun 19, 2008
 
Mr Truthiness wrote:
If ignorance is bliss, you must be the happiest person alive.....
The most conservative estimate is 8 million a day, with military aid added it's well over 10 million a day.
Your 60 billion figure is incorrect... No surprise, you're a pathological liar...
http://www.washington-report.org/us_aid_to_is...
http://www.allcountries.org/uscensus/1321_u_s...
The Washington Report? You call ME a pathological liar and turn around and use THAT as your source? The only time I ever see that publication is when I visit the Masjid by my house! Talk about biased! They make Fox News look good for heavens sake!

I got my info from here:
http://qesdb.cdie.org/gbk/index.html

You're Muslim. You know Muslims used to pray towards Jerusalem before the Jews rejected them. Then Allah told them to turn around and face Makkah.
Likely story...
Merry Merry

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Jun 19, 2008
 
The whole lot of you posters are frackin nut cases. Geeez ! I
am a Toys R Us Kid,'ya know ?
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Jun 19, 2008
 
Hey....I'm the toys R us kid...Copier.lol
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Jun 19, 2008
 
from Missouri wrote:
You have to be careful at times. Of course I want the facts about the loss of American lives. I also want the facts about Soviet spies in the US and Americans who served as their agents during the very same period as the Liberty incident.
Who wants the Liberty material released at this time and what is their motive? It could be to drive a wedge between US and Israel preventing coordinated efforts against Iran and Korea.
Why didn't anyone push for releasing US intelligence about, say, Ayers, the merry unrepentant terrorist and friend of Obama, and his associates? The Dems will never allow such information to be released since Ayers is now a Dem in good standing.
During the Clinton years the NY Times carried a one paragraph notice buried on an inside page. It said that KGB info might be leaked to the press naming US citizens as Soviet agents. It said that the KGB was notoriously unreliable and people should disregard such stories.
Actually, former KGB were blackmailing American sympathizers who were now wealthy and prominent. Apparently, the money was paid and that, as far as we know, was the end of it.
Yes, I want all the info, not part. Name the Soviet agents as well as release the Liberty material.
WHAT IS YOUR MOTIVE IN OBSTRUCTING THE RELEASE OF LIBERTY DOCUMENTS? Certainly your intentions arenot in the interests of America.Why do you want those documents kept secret? why do you drag Iran Soviet Union North Koreaand Obama(who was a child at the time)into this. You know for yourself, and that is certain , that Israel bombed Liberty.34 Americans killed and more than 200 injured seriously and you want Israel to be protected? If this is not treason what els is?
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Jun 19, 2008
 
manipulating false intelligence to invade an innocent soverign nation costing America trillions of dollars and over 4000 dead military for personal gain and hubris. Now that's treason.
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to Missouri from Riverhead NY I'm from Mastic I served in the US NAVY from 1969 to 1973 on 3 different ships and I don't remember hearing anything about this. In the last 10 years I've heard of this, the Tonkin Gulf Res. and want to know the TRUTH. I don't want my tax dollars (3 billion a year)going to aid ANY COUNTRY that spies on The U.S., attacked the USS Liberty, Violates UN resolutions, has nuclear weapons that NO ONE can even talk about and causes so much problems in the Middle East that get my fellow veterans KILLED. I WANT TO KNOW!!! REMEMBER THE LIBERTY.
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Jun 19, 2008
 
I say f*ck it all,who cares...We all f*cked America up and now we're trying to fix something that CAN'T BE FIXED...Thanks Everyone.What a WONDERFUL WORLD we live in...and if you don't expect to be killed or hurt,DON"T JOIN THE MILITARY.duh....Fight 4 our freedom,ha yeah right,ya'll are just pissing towel heads off..Maybe if we give them a camel they'll leave us alone.
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Jun 19, 2008
 
boatops wrote:
to Missouri from Riverhead NY I'm from Mastic I served in the US NAVY from 1969 to 1973 on 3 different ships and I don't remember hearing anything about this. In the last 10 years I've heard of this, the Tonkin Gulf Res. and want to know the TRUTH. I don't want my tax dollars (3 billion a year)going to aid ANY COUNTRY that spies on The U.S., attacked the USS Liberty, Violates UN resolutions, has nuclear weapons that NO ONE can even talk about and causes so much problems in the Middle East that get my fellow veterans KILLED. I WANT TO KNOW!!! REMEMBER THE LIBERTY.
You spent 4 years in the Navy in the 60's-70's and never heard of Israel bombing the USS Liberty? Yikes. When this happened I was a Marine at Camp Geiger,NC preparing for war in Vietnam, then this broke out, and we were preparing for war in the Middle East. I did go to war in Vietnam, then Lebanon in the 80's and Middle East in 1990-91. Where were you? Stoned at Woodstock? Unbelieveable!
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Jun 19, 2008
 
SMEDLEY BOTOPS A SECRE
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You know it for sure. Israel is your enimy. But you, I mean your ppolitical leadership, can not redeem your nation from under the yoke of Jews. You have no salvation.
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Jun 19, 2008
 
Even if Liberty documents are declassified and Israel found guilty conclusively, nothing is going to change. You will continue to remain as slaves of Israel.Period. After all any declassification will only be formality. Confirmation of what is already known
Merry Merry

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Jun 19, 2008
 
A secret wrote:
Hey....I'm the toys R us kid...Copier.lol
Well, can I join the club, too ?

This is a stupid thread. YES ??
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