Why should Australians fear from Muslims?

[Desert Rain]

AussieChristian wrote:

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Yeah they may not be on the streets ... instead they are inside their mosques .... see the link ..
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/arti...
and also this link :
http://www.rightsidenews.com/200808201764/glo...
yes they are not doing it in the streets .. but behind closed doors.. so why shouldnt we be scared of what the Muslim community wants to do to anyone that is a infidel?

hmm just to make something clear :o allah means god in arabic, and muslims say allah too because Islam started in the arab countries and all that, And muslims to want to be friend with christians and i can give you prove but would you pay attention to me ? if not then why should i hurt my fingers

[Desert Rain]

St Right Answer Sydney wrote:

Actually, Muslims don't believe in the Trinity..while Christians do
Christians beleive Jesus was the son of God while Muslims believe he was a prophet. Moreover, Muslims believe that God has no son, daughter, wife and so on.
Muslims believe Christ was neither crucified nor killed by the Jews, notwithstanding certain apparent circumstances which produced that illusion in the minds of some of the enemies; and Jesus was taken up to God ...while Christians believe that Christ was indeed crucified.
Muslims all mankind is born pure and sinless. And as we grow up, we commit our own sins and good deeds.. while Christians believe in the concept of Original sin.
The Holy Quran, has not undergone any changes. It is exactly the same as it was during the days of Prophet Muhammed . While during the early days of Christianity, a council was called where they systematized standard Christian beliefs and gave the New Testament its current form.
As mentioned above, Muslims do not eat pork while Christians do.
Alcohol is forbidden for Muslims while alcohol isnt forbidden for Christians..but Christianity forbids intoxication..getting drunk..

erm.. whats a trinity xD

[XXX]

Desert Rain wrote:

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erm.. whats a trinity xD

Trinity is:

1.God
2.Mary
3.Jesus

Tri as in three ;) Let me also correct that person who said muslim believes Jesus to be prophet. That's not correct, Muslims believe Jesus to be a messiah "A messenger"!!

Cheers

[dee]

XXX wrote:

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Trinity is:
1.God
2.Mary
3.Jesus
Tri as in three ;) Let me also correct that person who said muslim believes Jesus to be prophet. That's not correct, Muslims believe Jesus to be a messiah "A messenger"!!
Cheers

Please stop spreading false information. The Christian Trinity consists of God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ) and the Holy Spirit.

Mary is the earthly mother of Jesus, she is NOT part of the Trinity, and never has been.

[dee]

St Right Answer Sydney wrote:

<quoted text>If you are sick of truth, seek physiological help or pray for Gods assistance.

What, no smartarse answer when it comes down to historical truth?

If you want 'truth' read up on the repeated attempted invasions of Europe by Muslims.

[dee]

St Right Answer Sydney wrote:

Actually, Muslims don't believe in the Trinity..while Christians do
Christians beleive Jesus was the son of God while Muslims believe he was a prophet. Moreover, Muslims believe that God has no son, daughter, wife and so on.
Muslims believe Christ was neither crucified nor killed by the Jews, notwithstanding certain apparent circumstances which produced that illusion in the minds of some of the enemies; and Jesus was taken up to God ...while Christians believe that Christ was indeed crucified.
Muslims all mankind is born pure and sinless. And as we grow up, we commit our own sins and good deeds.. while Christians believe in the concept of Original sin.
The Holy Quran, has not undergone any changes. It is exactly the same as it was during the days of Prophet Muhammed . While during the early days of Christianity, a council was called where they systematized standard Christian beliefs and gave the New Testament its current form.
As mentioned above, Muslims do not eat pork while Christians do.
Alcohol is forbidden for Muslims while alcohol isnt forbidden for Christians..but Christianity forbids intoxication..getting drunk..

Who cares what Muslims believe? Why don't you people give up preaching, we're not interested. Believe the moon is made of cheese if you wish, but stop cramming it down our throats. We can cut and paste too if we wish.

[dee]

St Right Answer Sydney wrote:

<quoted text>Dee Pray St Patrick for assistance. He is well honoured saint by Celtic community. There are many legends and stories of St. Patrick, but this is his story.
Patrick was born around 385 in Scotland, probably Kilpatrick. His parents were Calpurnius and Conchessa, who were Romans living in Britain in charge of the colonies.
As a boy of fourteen or so, he was captured during a raiding party and taken to Ireland as a slave to herd and tend sheep. Ireland at this time was a land of Druids and pagans. He learned the language and practices of the people who held him.

St Patrick also drove all the snakes from Ireland.

Too bad he can't perform the same service for Australia.

[AussieChristian]

St Right Answer Sydney wrote:

<quoted text>Dee Pray St Patrick for assistance. He is well honoured saint by Celtic community. There are many legends and stories of St. Patrick, but this is his story.
Patrick was born around 385 in Scotland, probably Kilpatrick. His parents were Calpurnius and Conchessa, who were Romans living in Britain in charge of the colonies.
As a boy of fourteen or so, he was captured during a raiding party and taken to Ireland as a slave to herd and tend sheep. Ireland at this time was a land of Druids and pagans. He learned the language and practices of the people who held him.

And what has that got to do with Muslims in Australia ..???? Nothing ... Keep to the topic at hand .. rather than changing it.

If you are a christian do you want Australia to come under Sharia law? I certainly dont.

[AussieChristian]

Desert Rain wrote:

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hmm just to make something clear :o allah means god in arabic, and muslims say allah too because Islam started in the arab countries and all that, And muslims to want to be friend with christians and i can give you prove but would you pay attention to me ? if not then why should i hurt my fingers

Ok so you say Allah means god .. then why prior Islam was there a moon god called allah .. and another 359 other pagan gods? And Allah was married to the Sungodess and they had 3 daughters whose names were: Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat.

But I guess you will say .. it is not true.. but it is... see the link I have provided for you..

http://www.netbiblestudy.net/bulletin/new_pag...

At least we just call God God .. and we dont have to do the pbuh or what ever you guys have to write every time you say a name ...

But of course all Muslims will totally discredit history to suit themselves when it is there in black and white for everyone to read.

Islam is a barbaric culture, way of life. It is not a race it is a religion and political system all rolled into one. But take away the Hadiths and remove all the abrogated verses and I dont think there would be much of Islam left over.

[ngali]

AussieChristian wrote:

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But of course all Muslims will totally discredit history to suit themselves...

Exactly what you and your link are doing I would've thought.

[Desert Rain]

XXX wrote:

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Trinity is:
1.God
2.Mary
3.Jesus
Tri as in three ;) Let me also correct that person who said muslim believes Jesus to be prophet. That's not correct, Muslims believe Jesus to be a messiah "A messenger"!!
Cheers

not true :o we say he is a rasool which means a prophet, and what does prophets do ? they deliver the message of god ! their for messenger ;)same concept applies on moh. Peace be upon both of them

[Desert Rain]

AussieChristian wrote:

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Ok so you say Allah means god .. then why prior Islam was there a moon god called allah .. and another 359 other pagan gods? And Allah was married to the Sungodess and they had 3 daughters whose names were: Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat.
But I guess you will say .. it is not true.. but it is... see the link I have provided for you..
http://www.netbiblestudy.net/bulletin/new_pag...
At least we just call God God .. and we dont have to do the pbuh or what ever you guys have to write every time you say a name ...
But of course all Muslims will totally discredit history to suit themselves when it is there in black and white for everyone to read.
Islam is a barbaric culture, way of life. It is not a race it is a religion and political system all rolled into one. But take away the Hadiths and remove all the abrogated verses and I dont think there would be much of Islam left over.

We say their is only ONE GOD ! we don not believe in the Greek mythological ? ANYWAYS ! we say their is only one god ! so when we say allah we mean that one god and we dont say pbuh when we say god " allah " thats for the prophets .. A way to show respect, Because we respect all prophets ! we just dont believe jesus is son of god ! because god has no kids/mother/father/wife. Thats what we believe in :] anyways x_x Its Ramadan now :] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramadan

[Desert Rain]

AussieChristian wrote:

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Ok so you say Allah means god .. then why prior Islam was there a moon god called allah .. and another 359 other pagan gods? And Allah was married to the Sungodess and they had 3 daughters whose names were: Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat.
But I guess you will say .. it is not true.. but it is... see the link I have provided for you..
http://www.netbiblestudy.net/bulletin/new_pag...
At least we just call God God .. and we dont have to do the pbuh or what ever you guys have to write every time you say a name ...
But of course all Muslims will totally discredit history to suit themselves when it is there in black and white for everyone to read.
Islam is a barbaric culture, way of life. It is not a race it is a religion and political system all rolled into one. But take away the Hadiths and remove all the abrogated verses and I dont think there would be much of Islam left over.

and btw ! it said Al Ilah which means the god :o i told u ! allah means god in arabic ! sheesh >.> and they are arabs ! so what would they call that god ;o seriously .. ALLAH = GOD ! Ilay = My god , Al ilah = the god , Raby = also means my god .. sometimes we dont say allah we say ya raby ! allah is not some NEW GOD he is " as you christians say " Jesus father, We believe in the father and please dont go to some Anti-Islam site and get proves from their.. how about you go to an Islamic site and see the truth for yourself

[AussieChristian]

Desert Rain wrote:

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and btw ! it said Al Ilah which means the god :o i told u ! allah means god in arabic ! sheesh >.> and they are arabs ! so what would they call that god ;o seriously .. ALLAH = GOD ! Ilay = My god , Al ilah = the god , Raby = also means my god .. sometimes we dont say allah we say ya raby ! allah is not some NEW GOD he is " as you christians say " Jesus father, We believe in the father and please dont go to some Anti-Islam site and get proves from their.. how about you go to an Islamic site and see the truth for yourself

Go to an islamic website that doesnt say the WHOLE TRUTH, but only what it wants Muslims to believe .. no thanks .. I would rather read the REAL truth and if you dont want to .. its up to you ...

Funny how it seems that the whole western world says what you would consider lies or mis truths .. but probably dont bother to research it yourself .. but each to their own .. I have my beliefs you have yours ... and I know I will be going to Heaven when it is my time ...

[Desert Rain]

AussieChristian wrote:

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Go to an islamic website that doesnt say the WHOLE TRUTH, but only what it wants Muslims to believe .. no thanks .. I would rather read the REAL truth and if you dont want to .. its up to you ...
Funny how it seems that the whole western world says what you would consider lies or mis truths .. but probably dont bother to research it yourself .. but each to their own .. I have my beliefs you have yours ... and I know I will be going to Heaven when it is my time ...

I wish everyone goes to heaven but because their is different religion It's hard, I personally hope that god would let a person go to heaven judging on his deeds and what he has done in earth,+ I dont need to go to Islamic sites because i take islamic lessons in school and by dad teaches me and i can read the quraan so i know what i believe in.

Peaaaaaaaaaaace <33

[Desert Rain]

St Right Answer Sydney wrote:

<quoted text>Everyone says, "How the time flies." The days go by and they are years, and the years finally become our whole life. Each daily portion can be wasted, or it can be a pleasure, before it is gone forever. If a bedtime review of the day concludes that we were too stressed, too busy, didn't accomplish anything, didn't have any fun, then it has been another lost piece of precious life.
Perhaps we are putting off our enjoyment until we have more time, or money, or some other improved condition. The trouble with that is that it might never happen, or it may be too long in coming. It's so important to accept this time, this very minute, as something of tremendous value that will very soon be gone forever. There are many ways to ensure that we make the best of our time here on earth.If you love THE GOD ,yOU SHOULD SHOW Respect and understanding OTHER human beings.

well said :3

[AussieChristian]

St Right Answer Sydney wrote:

<quoted text>Everyone says, "How the time flies." The days go by and they are years, and the years finally become our whole life. Each daily portion can be wasted, or it can be a pleasure, before it is gone forever. If a bedtime review of the day concludes that we were too stressed, too busy, didn't accomplish anything, didn't have any fun, then it has been another lost piece of precious life.
Perhaps we are putting off our enjoyment until we have more time, or money, or some other improved condition. The trouble with that is that it might never happen, or it may be too long in coming. It's so important to accept this time, this very minute, as something of tremendous value that will very soon be gone forever. There are many ways to ensure that we make the best of our time here on earth.If you love THE GOD ,yOU SHOULD SHOW Respect and understanding OTHER human beings.

Yeah fair enough .. too much work, no time for play .. well that has been a way of life of many for years and years and years.

Sometimes it cannot be achieved. Sometimes family members no longer live close to you so as not to see them.. but in saying that .. I manage my day very well that everything goes well ... I do not stress over the things things as I have matured ...
But in saying that .. that has nothing to do with the topic at hand ...
Everyone has their rights to their own personal opinions, some agree others disagree its each persons personal view ..

And Yes I do fear Islam for my own personal reasons.

[AussieChristian]

Desert Rain wrote:

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I wish everyone goes to heaven but because their is different religion It's hard, I personally hope that god would let a person go to heaven judging on his deeds and what he has done in earth,+ I dont need to go to Islamic sites because i take islamic lessons in school and by dad teaches me and i can read the quraan so i know what i believe in.
Peaaaaaaaaaaace <33

I agree with you Desert Rain .. but honestly how is one to learn if we hear something without also investigating.

You believe in the Quran .. as you said your Father teaches you and you also have a teacher.
Have you not questioned sometimes things that are said on here .. and done any personal investigation without any close influence?
In its just a basic question. Because I know I have .. its just learning more to see both sides of a debate.. and to open ones eyes to what it out there as we now have the technology to achieve such things.

I hope that Ramadam is going well for you( I first learnt about it nearly 10 years ago and I was very intreged by it so I researched it).

[Desert Rain]

AussieChristian wrote:

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I agree with you Desert Rain .. but honestly how is one to learn if we hear something without also investigating.
You believe in the Quran .. as you said your Father teaches you and you also have a teacher.
Have you not questioned sometimes things that are said on here .. and done any personal investigation without any close influence?
In its just a basic question. Because I know I have .. its just learning more to see both sides of a debate.. and to open ones eyes to what it out there as we now have the technology to achieve such things.
I hope that Ramadam is going well for you( I first learnt about it nearly 10 years ago and I was very intreged by it so I researched it).

hmm yeah I had many questions and I researched and I even had my doubts and their are many things that I dont follow in Islam because I feel they are false, I also learned alot about other religions and their are many things in them that I admire :] but I just wish that people would stop these religious wars and sort their problems out in a nice & smooth way not cursing and insulting one another ...
and yeah ramadan is okay :] 3 hours left till Iftar ! YUPPPIE ! sweets @.@

[dee]

St Right Answer Sydney wrote:

There haven’t been any snakes in Ireland since at least the beginning of the last Ice Age and there probably never were. That’s a matter of climate (it’s too cold for ’em) and the fact that Ireland is an island and snakes are lousy swimmers. St. Paddy may have worked miracles but banishing non-existent reptiles wasn’t one of ’em. The myth is most likely a metaphor for Christianizing the people and driving the pagan religions out of Ireland.
This applies, of course, only to the reptilian variety of snakes. The warm blooded kind mostly emigrated to new world.

<The myth is most likely a metaphor for Christianizing>

Enough with the cut and pastes. I think all people of Irish or part-Irish descent, including myself, are aware that it's a myth.

<The warm blooded kind mostly emigrated to new world>

What's your excuse?